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The Rest Is Money

ByGoalhanger Podcasts
180 episodes

Podcast Summary

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories.Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market.Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape.For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.

#1

177. Are Food Giants The New Big Tobacco?

Why is there an obesity epidemic? Are “fat jabs” the answer? How culpable are the food multinationals for making and marketing addictive “ultra-formulated” foods? Steph and Robert are joined by US public health expert ex-FDA commissioner, who rolled out COVID vaccines in America, Dr David Kessler. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ Visit: ⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-06-01•40mins
#2

176. Trump’s Tax Cuts: America’s Liz Truss Moment

Are Trump’s unfunded tax cuts trashing America’s “exorbitant privilege”? Has Europe stopped being "goodie goodie" and is it at last going for growth? Do Reeves’s fiscal rules hurt her by ramping up damaging speculation? Steph and Robert speak with Karen Ward, Chief Market Strategist for EMEA at J.P. Morgan Asset Management. Visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhanger.com Video Editor: Teo Ayodeji-Ansell Producers: India Dunkley & Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-28•53mins
#3

175. Does Trump Spell The End Of Net Zero?

How do we swap out dirty power for clean power in the UK? Why aren’t politicians more ambitious with green energy policies when it’s cheaper than the fossil fuel alternative? Will China and the rest of the world step forward where America is stepping backwards? Robert and Steph speak to Lord Nick Stern, one of the leading voices on the economic impact of climate change. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-25•32mins
#4

174. What Is Really Going On With Inflation

Why can’t the Bank of England’s rate setters agree on how to tackle inflation? What impact does this have on business? Should tax breaks for savers be scrapped? Steph and Robert discuss all this, plus why Trump’s ‘one big, beautiful’ tax bill is getting ugly. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-21•36mins
#5

173. Why Starmer Didn’t Do Enough On EU Trade

How much richer will Starmer’s EU reset make us? Why didn’t he negotiate for goods what he agreed for food? And will his energy deal with Brussels help or hurt British manufacturers? Robert and Steph dissect whether Starmer’s EU deal really is a “win win”. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-20•26mins
#6

172. Is The Treasury Striving For Mediocrity?

Why is Rachel Reeves in a lose-lose situation with UK growth? How can the care sector survive without immigration? How are the world’s biggest retailers responding to Trump’s erratic economic policies? Robert and Steph discuss. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-18•40mins
#7

171. Will Trump’s Tax Cuts Cause Soaring US Debt?

Can US Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent, stop Trump trashing the global economy? Do Starmer’s new immigration controls make any sense? And are we about to see an EU and UK revival? Robert chats this and more with Steph Flanders, Head of Economics and Politics at Bloomberg, and host of the Trumponomics podcast. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠ Visit: Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-14•39mins
#8

170. Will Trump’s Deal With China Stick?

Does Trump’s China capitulation mean the tariff war is over? Is the dollar’s safe haven status dead? What does Trump’s coercion of drug companies mean for the NHS? Robert and Steph discuss the latest Trump Turmoil including Qatar’s $400m airplane gift to him. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠ Visit: ⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-12•28mins

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#9

169. How To Wean The UK Off Immigration

What does the Conservative Party have to do to be electable? Does it matter whether Reform has absurd economic plans? And why is so much of today’s politics about immigration? Robert and Steph talk with Rachel Wolf, co-author of Boris Johnson’s 2019 manifesto, about what the centre right needs to do economically to regain public trust. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠ Visit: Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-11•38mins
#10

168. Is Trump’s Deal Good for Britain?

What is the deal? Is it any good? What about the EU? Robert and Steph bring you their analysis of the good, the bad and the ugly of the UK tariff deal with the US. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠ ⁠⁠goalhanger.com⁠⁠ Visit: ⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-09•26mins
#11

167. Should We Care That Indian Workers Won’t Pay National Insurance?

What are the numbers behind the new trade deal between India and the UK? Have the Conservatives lost all economic common sense? Will it matter to voters whether Reform UK’s economic policies are bonkers? Robert and Steph discuss these questions and more. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: ⁠Sign up to our newsletter⁠ to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ X: ⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠ Instagram: ⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠ TikTok: ⁠@RestIsMoney⁠ ⁠goalhanger.com⁠ Visit: ⁠monzo.com/therestismoney⁠/ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-07•41mins
#12

166. How To Cut Energy Bills

Do we need to speed up or slow down the transition to green power? Should we have local power for local people in the form of zonal pricing? Are renewables more prone to system crashes, as happened in Spain and Portugal? Steph and Robert find out from the boss and founder of the UK’s biggest energy company, Octopus, Greg Jackson. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhanger.com Visit: Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-05-04•45mins
#13

165. Trump’s Timebomb: The Warning No One Has Spotted

How the slowing down of ships shows Trump’s first 100 days are not going to plan? Will Mark Carney’s Canadian election forge a ‘coalition of the economically willing’? Is the UK more vulnerable to cyber attacks than other countries? Robert and Steph discuss Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhanger.com Visit: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-30•35mins
#14

164. The Great British Energy Crisis

Why does the UK have the most expensive energy in the world? Should the places that generate the cheapest energy get the lowest prices? Should the rich pay more for their power? Robert and Steph talk to Jonathan Brearley, the CEO of the UK’s energy regulator, OFGEM. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney/ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-27•38mins
#15

163. Trump Surrenders To China And The Fed

Why has Trump changed his mind about firing the head of America’s central bank? Why has he also backed down on China trade tariffs? And while Rachel Reeves tries to woo Washington this week, are more UK tax rises in Autumn inevitable? Catching up on the latest data on borrowing and growth, Steph and Robert tell you what you need to know.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comVisit: monzo.com/therestismoneyAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-23•28mins
#16

162. The Health Gap: Fixing Inequality in the UK

Why do poor people in the South live longer than Northerners in similar deprivation? How do we fix health inequality? What can businesses do to help? Steph is joined by Sir Michael Marmot, professor of Epidemiology, to discuss why all policy decisions need to focus on health equity.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comVisit: monzo.com/therestismoneyAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-20•32mins
#17

161. Trump Turmoil: Starmer Should Choose EU Over US

Influential economist Jim O’Neill tells Steph and Robert why a trade deal with the EU is more important to the UK then one with Trump, that it would be foolish to cut off trade and economic links with China, and how the government has to be more ambitions with its UK investments.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comVisit: monzo.com/therestismoneyAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-17•35mins
#18

160. Trump Turmoil: The Latest Act Of Self-Harm

Robert and Steph discuss Trump’s latest play to put tariffs on rare earth minerals, alongside the indefinite restrictions he’s put on Nvidia sending their H20 chips to China, in the latest acts of self-harm for America. Also, is the UK’s path to net zero undermining the competitiveness of British industry? And why does the UK government continue to refuse to invest in Great British growth prospects?Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comVisit: monzo.com/therestismoneyAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-16•35mins
#19

159. Trump Turmoil: It’s The Hope That Kills You

Robert explains how Trump is helping China and the EU while hurting America, what Trump’s dogma shares with the economically disastrous Soviet Union and how the US is on track for financial and fiscal Armageddon.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comVisit: monzo.com/therestismoneyAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-15•31mins
#20

158. Trump Turmoil: Starmer Takes Action

Robert explains how the government’s decision to save British Steel is a massive change to its industrial policy, and a response to Trump, how the latest in Trump’s tariff U-turns just sows more confusion and why investors need to be more patriotic as the global economy is reconstructed.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comVisit: www.monzo.com/therestismoneyAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-14•30mins
#21

157. Trump Turmoil: Never Underestimate China

President Trump believes a trade war with America’s biggest supplier and massive creditor, China, will be more damaging for China than for America. Steph and Robert think he may be dangerously wrong.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneyVist: monzo.com/business-bankinggoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-11•36mins
#22

156. Trump Turmoil: A Pause Won’t Stop Uncertainty

Is this America's Brexit? Robert and Steph explain why Trump's pause on the more extreme tariffs isn't a return to free trade and why the economic war between China and the US is like a nuclear one. Will anyone benefit or is it all bad news? Could the UK be in for cheaper prices? One big uncertainty is what Trump plans for the big drug companies. Steph and Robert dive in.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comVisit: monzo.com/business-bankingAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-10•30mins
#23

155. Trump Turmoil: The Tariffs Kick In

What are the similarities between the current economic crisis and the ‘Lehman Weekend’? Will global investors soon start dumping the dollar? Robert and Steph discuss.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneyAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack DavenportVisit Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-09•26mins

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#24

154. Trump Turmoil: Why Billionaires Are Panicking

How long till markets stabilise? How crazy is Trump’s formula for calculating tariffs? What are the big dangers that lie ahead? Robert and Steph tell you what you need to know about Trump’s market mayhem.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneyAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack DavenportVisit Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-08•27mins
#25

153. Reform UK: What Would Farage’s Britain Look Like?

Steph and Robert speak to Zia Yusuf, Chairman of Reform UK to discuss his controversial role as a British Muslim running an anti-immigration party, why he won’t rule out merging with the Tories and whether Reform actually have some serious economic plans for the country.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneyAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack DavenportLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-06•52mins
#26

152. Liberation Day: Will Trump’s Tariffs Kill Reeves’ Growth?

Steph and Robert speak to Richard Hughes, head of the Office for Budget Responsibility, who has run scenarios on what will happen to the economy as Donald Trump imposes tariffs and the world responds. He also discusses whether the OBR has too much influence over government and stultifies growth, and how Rachel Reeves’ fiscal “headroom” may be wiped out again very shortly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-04-02•46mins
#27

151. Do the Tories have a new economic message?

Robert and Steph sit down with Shadow Chancellor Mel Stride to hear which taxes he would reform, his fears that young people aren’t entrepreneurial enough, how the Conservative Party is repositioning itself in opposition, and how he blagged his way to create his first business. Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneyAssistant Producer: Alice Horrell, Harry SwanProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack DavenportLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-03-30•41mins
#28

150. Exclusive: Rachel Reeves On Why Trump Won't Control Us

Fresh off the back of the Spring Statement, the Chancellor sits down with Robert and Steph to talk growth, jobs, welfare and why the government will not cave to pressure from the US on tech taxes.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-03-27•30mins
#29

149. Why Is Tech So Sexist?

Robert is joined by serial entrepreneur and president of the British Chambers of Commerce Martha Lane Fox. They discuss why it is so hard for all-female businesses to attract funding, why she struggled to acknowledge her disability after a devastating accident, how work helped her recovery and the continued pernicious impact of Brexit on smaller companiesSign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneyAssistant Producers: India Dunkley and Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-03-24•42mins
#30

148. How Do You Decide Who Is Too Sick To Work?

Robert and Steph discuss the welfare conundrum - how do you get more people into work when many businesses are not equipped or incentivised to provide the jobs? And is part of the problem an over-medicalisation of life’s ups and downs? Plus, how can we better prepare the next generation for the world of work?Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Visit monzo.com/business-bankingEmail: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-03-20•34mins
#31

147. What’s Wrong With Labour’s Welfare Reforms?

Robert is back with Andy Haldane, looking ahead to the Spring Statement, and discussing proposed welfare reform. But are these changes really about helping people back into work, or brutal cost saving measures? Will they come with a sufficient skills package? And how can the government best help to lift people out of precarious, low-skilled jobs to give them, and the economy, the best chance of thriving?Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producers: India Dunkley and Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-03-17•35mins
#32

146. Does Trump Risk Sparking A Global Financial Crisis?

Robert is joined by Andy Haldane, Chief Executive of the Royal Society of Arts and former chief economist at the Bank of England, to evaluate whether Trump will push the US and global economy to the bring of crisis, whether European and UK leaders will rise to the challenge and revitalise our continent, and whether re-armament is a compelling industrial strategy. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Visit monzo.com/business-bankingEmail: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-03-13•44mins
#33

145. Hoffman: Europe Is Regulating Itself Out Of The AI Race

This week Steph and Robert speak to Reid Hoffman, the co-founder of LinkedIn and an early investor in tech giants like Facebook and OpenAI. Reid gives us his take on Musk’s government efficiency drive, and considers whether a country can be run like a business. How can governments balance innovation and regulation? And, how can AI give us superpowers to tackle things like climate change and job market instability?Visit monzo.com/business-bankingSign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-03-10•50mins
#34

144. The European Silver Lining to Trump’s Global Gangsterism

Robert and Steph catch up after another gruelling week of Trump’s “America-first” agenda. They question the thinking behind his tariffs, and predict who will really pay the price for them. With cautious optimism, the pair also consider whether or not the UK and Europe could pull together to regenerate their economies and their militaries. Is Trump the shock that could reverse decades of European decline?Discover the Vanguard Managed ISA today! Visit monzo.com/business-bankingSign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-03-06•37mins
#35

143. Was Starmer Right To Woo Trump?

Robert returns from his trip to the US with the PM, to the mayhem of the collapse of relations between Trump And Zelenskyy. He and Steph assess the significance of Trump withdrawing support from Kiev. They also look at whether US/UK trade deals are on the cards, whether Starmer’s decision to slash aid to fund defence makes sense, and whether King Charles has just proved he is value for our money.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-28•39mins
#36

142. Are We In A Golden Era Of Corruption?

Despite being called a dictator by Trump, President Zelensky has agreed a deal that would see the US make billions from Ukraine’s minerals. Steph catches up with The Rest Is Politics’ Alastair Campbell as they ponder how the deal might play out. Plus the impact of Musk’s meddling on geopolitics and what Starmer needs to be doing and saying to Trump in their pivotal meeting this week.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-27•36mins
#37

141. Why Aren’t UK Pension Funds Backing Britain?

Robert and Steph speak with Michael Tory about the underperformance of the UK stock market compared to other countries, and why this has done so much damage to all our living standards. They discuss whether the government is doing enough to compel or encourage the funds that manage our money to invest in UK businessesSign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell Producer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-24•35mins
#38

140. How Do The Bank of England Really Make Their Decisions?

Robert and Steph discuss why inflation won’t disappear but is no worse than feared, how AI is both replacing humans and making some more productive according to Anthropic’s new data and what’s really motivating Trump in his rapprochement with Putin.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-20•30mins
#39

139. Why Shopping Will Never Be The Same Again

Robert and Steph find out how AI will radically change how people will shop in the future. Retail consultant Kate Ancketill explains how every cursor movement and click is being analysed to provide retailers with ways to predict, and therefore manipulate, how we buy. All that plus we chat about the role of AI assistants, celeb avatars, and how retailers are tackling theft and low consumer confidence.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-17•38mins
#40

138. What is Elon Musk really up to?

As Musk continues his hostile takeover of the US government, Robert and Steph look at the impact his dramatic overhaul is having. It sounds like chaos but could it pave the way for a more radical approach to public finances in the UK? Plus we discuss what Musk wants from OpenAI. And whether all this drama will end with a spectacular Trump/Musk fallout. Or have they both got too much to lose?Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-13•38mins
#41

137. Trump’s Trade War: Winners, Losers and The Global Fallout

Robert and Steph catch up after a dramatic week of Trump's trade tariffs and consider their ripple effects across the globe. Will consumers pay the price for an "America-first agenda"? And, is there any genius in Trump sowing economic uncertainty? Also, will the Bank of England’s “careful and gradual” approach to cutting interest rates to 4.5%, go far enough? Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-10•36mins
#42

136. Are Labour’s Growth Goals Meaningless?

Steph and Robert are joined by Praful Nargund, founder of the Good Growth Foundation, and Chris Curtis, MP for Milton Keynes North, to speak about Rachel Reeves’s growth targets. They consider what growth actually means to everyday people, whether it’s felt evenly, or if Labour should be prioritising something else altogether. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-06•42mins
#43

135. China: Business Partner Or Security Threat?

Steph and Gordon Corera, host of The Rest Is Classified and the BBC’s Security Correspondent, discuss the security risks posed to the UK by Rachel Reeves’ new ploy to secure Chinese investment. Also, how Huawei was replaced by Tik Tok, and then DeepSeek, as the latest digital threat to the West and why an era of subtle ‘cognitive warfare’ has been ushered in by social media.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-02-03•32mins
#44

134. Will Rachel Reeves’ New Found Optimism Bring Growth?

Robert and Steph catch up after Rachel Reeves’ attempt to bring back confidence in the UK economy. With plans for a third runway at Heathrow, a corridor of investment between Cambridge and Oxford as well as money for projects in places like Manchester and Wrexham, we discuss the pros and cons. And for a change it’s Steph who takes on the role of Eeyore.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India DunkleyProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-01-30•28mins
#45

133. Will Trump’s Chaos Strategy Work?

Steph and Robert catch up on Trump’s first week back in office. Looking at the likely economic impact of his decisions on mass deportation, the environment, energy and prices. As well as what wasn’t said on things like trade tariffs with China. Plus with Rachel Reeves hoping to convince us she’s got a plan for growth this week, we discuss whether a third runaway at Heathrow is going to cut it. And why we’re in an ugly competition. Good news though: we’re not the ugliest.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-01-27•32mins
#46

132. Why Britain Isn’t A “Science Superpower”

Steph and Robert speak to Sir Paul Nurse - Nobel Prize winning cell biologist and Director of the Francis Crick Institute - about how science funding needs to change, why the UK is failing to lure global talent, how we scrub up against the other OECD countries in terms of research and development and how - despite being a geneticist - it took him 55 years to discover who his biological parents were.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell, Evan GreenProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-01-23•47mins
#47

131. Why The Stats Behind The Budget Might Be Wrong

The founder of the OBR and now boss of all official statistics Robert Chote explains to Steph and Robert why the UK’s unemployment numbers are so unreliable and why the chancellor should be braver and not obsessively try to meet her fiscal rules at all times.We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-01-20•44mins
#48

130. The Brutal Truth Behind Britain's AI Gamble

Robert and Steph are joined by Peter Kyle, the Science and Tech Secretary of State, to evaluate whether the prime minister’s plan to turn the UK into an AI world leader, while simultaneously modernising public services and making us richer, has any chance of succeeding.We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-01-16•46mins
#49

129. How Serious Is The UK’s Debt Mess?

Steph and Robert are joined by Dr Gerard Lyons, an influential economist and Bank of China board member, to discuss whether Rachel Reeves is wise to ask China to invest in the UK, whether the Chancellor will need to come back for more tax rises later this year and what he really advised Liz Truss to do.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-01-13•46mins
#50

128. Will Starmer Stop Musk's Meddling?

Robert gives us his take on 'Starmer vs Musk' and Steph tells us why she thinks business rates are going to be a big problem this year. There’s also a discussion about misunderstood concepts in economics, first up: GDP. Plus we catch-up on the exciting post Steph and Robert received over Christmas. A clue: it involves a Clinton and a Truss.Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance.Email: [email protected]: @TheRestIsMoneyInstagram: @TheRestIsMoneyTikTok: @RestIsMoneygoalhangerpodcasts.comAssistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice HorrellProducer: Ross BuchananHead of Content: Tom WhiterExec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-01-09•31mins

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