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The Cult I Left Behind

ByAmanda & Kyle Briggs
83 episodes

Podcast Summary

Newly-ish married couple, Amanda and Kyle, discuss Amanda’s upbringing in the IBLP cult of Duggar infamy – a story Kyle learns about along with listeners. Through sometimes humorous, sometimes heartbreaking stories, Amanda and Kyle explore the cult’s ideology, the strange rules that surrounded Amanda’s childhood, and the abuse she endured before leaving the cult. Through it all, they talk about what it takes to break free from a cult and what gets left behind.

#1

1 - The First Rule of Cults is We're Not a Cult

Amanda and Kyle open the podcast with a history of the IBLP cult led by Bill Gothard. Amanda explains the cult's early beginnings, exponential growth, and transformation into the organization that exists to this day. She shares the core tenants of Gothard's ideology, as well as her childhood perspective of the teachings she was forced to memorize and live by as a child raised in the cult. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-09-04•1hr 13mins
#2

2 - A Harem, a Coup, and a Ponzi Scheme

Amanda gives Kyle background on IBLP leadership to set the stage for future episodes. She details the Gothard brothers, their various scandals, and the ways IBLP covered them up and put cult members at greater risk of harm.Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-09-11•32mins
#3

3 - Gothard Girls

Amanda details Bill Gothard's pattern of sexual harassment and assault of teenage girls and young women in IBLP that went unhindered for decades. Edit: Toward the end of the episode, Amanda says Bill resigned in 2004, but she meant to say 2014. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-09-18•1hr 23mins
#4

4 - The Abuse Begins

Amanda begins her story of surviving childhood physical, emotional, verbal, spiritual, and sexual abuse in the IBLP cult. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-09-25•1hr 6mins
#5

5 - The Abuse Continues

Amanda talks about life after the first time she told her parents about her brother sexually assaulting her. She tells Kyle about getting through high school and trying to protect her younger siblings from her brother. Amanda also discusses her brother being sent away to an IBLP facility, just like Josh Duggar, and her parents' control over her life and their narrative of the abuse.Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-10-02•1hr 0mins
#6

6 - Girl Meets World

Amanda tells Kyle about the people and circumstances that created formative moments as she finished high school and left her biological family's home for college. She talks about her older sister finding out about the abuse, the ways IBLP ideology influenced her parents' decision about her college education and relationships, and how Bill Gothard's teachings about authority caused her to be controlled even as a young adult living away from home and supporting herself. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-10-09•1hr 24mins
#7

7 - Healing Begins

Amanda's world opens up even more as she begins to step away from her family and IBLP cult ideology and towards healing. Amanda and Kyle talk about the circumstances that occurred to get Amanda to finally begin speaking up about what happened to her, her parents' reaction to her speaking up, and the people who supported her through her first tentative steps toward health and safety. Additionally, Amanda tells Kyle about how she finally got a mental health diagnosis, the process of going through PTSD treatment, and how she moved toward seeking accountability and justice. Link to Amanda's bookSend us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-10-16•1hr 26mins
#8

8 - Four Years in Court

Amanda tells Kyle about breaking away from IBLP ideology and reaching the point of being able to report her brother. She talks about the people who helped her disengage from Bill Gothard's teachings and develop an appropriate understanding of justice and accountability. Amanda details the four-year process of criminal court, how her family reacted, and how the case concluded. This episode includes Amanda's victim impact statement from her brother's sentencing hearing, minus the graphic details of assault. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-10-23•1hr 39mins

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#9

9 - Shiny Happy People Review Part 1

Amanda and Kyle talk through the first episode of Shiny Happy People, a documentary about the Duggar family and their TLC show 19 Kids and Counting. The Duggars are part of the IBLP cult, and Amanda and Kyle discuss the many ways Amanda's story overlaps with the Duggar story, Josh's sexual assault scandal, and what life was like growing up under Bill Gothard's influence. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-10-30•1hr 22mins
#10

Special Halloween Message from Amanda & Kyle

Here's your weather forecast for Halloween 2023. Enjoy!Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-10-31•5mins
#11

10 - Shiny Happy People Review Part 2

Amanda and Kyle recap episode two of Shiny Happy People. They discuss Josh Duggar's sexual assault of his sisters and the Ashley Madison scandal in which Josh was implicated. Kyle asks Amanda to explain the IBLP cult concept of eye traps, and they discuss the complexities of being a female in the cult. This episode is a wild ride of burning various items in to avoid satanic influence, spiritual gifts, parentification of children, and how parents in the cult went about breaking a child's will. Amanda and Kyle also discuss the public abuse of children that comes up in the second episode of the documentary, and Amanda explains Bill Gothard's teachings on authority. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-11-06•1hr 9mins
#12

11 - Shiny Happy People Review Part 3

Amanda and Kyle review episode three of Shiny Happy People. They discuss Bill Gothard’s teachings on authority within the IBLP cult and the creepy dynamic the cult created between fathers and their virgin daughters. Amanda and Kyle discuss the ways Jim Bob Duggar tricked and coerced his children into appearing on the 19 Kids and Counting and Jill and Jessa Counting On TV shows without compensation. Amanda explains to Kyle the dynamics within the cult that would result in an adult child signing legal contracts without knowing the implications of their commitment and how the cult environment and hierarchy conditioned people for abuse and silence.Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-11-13•1hr 23mins
#13

12 - Shiny Happy People Review Part 4

In the final installment of their Shiny Happy People review, Amanda and Kyle have an emotional conversation about episode four of the docuseries. They discuss the correlations between Josh Dugger and Amanda’s brother, as well as the parental responses of Jim Bob and Michelle and Amanda’s bio parents. Kyle and Amanda react to Anna Duggar’s choices in the aftermath of Josh’s investigation and trial and set the stage for a conversation about the cult’s stance on divorce, which will be the subject of an episode coming in a few weeks. Amanda shares her experiences with the Joshua Generation and their goal of taking over the government, and ultimately the world, as an “elite strike force” for Christ. Kyle and Amanda talk about the hard work of deconstruction after leaving the cult and the caring community that awaits anyone who leaves behind the IBLP cult and Bill Gothard’s teachings. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-11-20•1hr 2mins
#14

13 - Q&A with Amanda & Kyle

Amanda and Kyle answer listener questions. As Kyle puts it, everyone and their mom wants to know if Amanda still believes in God. Listen to the episode to find out! And feel free to submit more questions; we’ll keep answering them. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-11-27•1hr 5mins
#15

14 - Divorce in the Cult

In a deeply personal conversation, Amanda and Kyle discuss the ideology surrounding divorce in the IBLP cult. Amanda shares about her divorce, which finalized five years ago the day this episode was released, and explains the way cult teaching keeps people - particularly women - trapped in harmful marriages. Kyle shares his perspective from outside the cult, and together they talk through the spiritual, emotional, and economic implications of divorce for women who are dependent on their husbands as outlined in Bill Gothard's teachings on authority.Resource List:www.thehotline.orgwww.nrcdv.orgwww.ncadv.org/RESOURCESSend us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-12-04•1hr 14mins
#16

15 - Are All Religions Cults?

Join Amanda and Kyle along with special guest Tim Whitaker from The New Evangelicals as they explore the distinction between cults and religions. In response to a listener question, the trio discusses the differences and similarities between the two, including whether Jesus could be considered a cult leader. The conversation covers their personal experiences with Christianity, the American church, and IBLP. Tune in to hear their insights and reflections, and discover where the conversation leads.Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-12-11•49mins
#17

16 - Christmas in the Cult

Amanda and Kyle talk about Christmas traditions and ideology influenced by the IBLP cult. From Santa’s role as an agent of Satan to distract from Christ to annual research projects due on Christmas Eve, Amanda walks Kyle through a typical Christmas growing up in the cult. Kyle provides the normal Christmas perspective, and Amanda and Kyle think through what they would keep and what they would definitely leave behind if they have kids someday. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2023-12-18•50mins
#18

17 - Cult Rhemas for the New Year

Who's ready for 2024?! Amanda and Kyle start off the New Year with stories of young Amanda's panicked search for a Rhema (a special word from God) for each new year and, like, every other day of the year. Amanda tells Kyle about a typical New Years in her home growing up in the IBLP cult. Kyle shocks Amanda with his own stories from young adulthood, and we all go on a Myspace search. Join us for a booze-free and somehow still raucous start to the New Year!Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-01-01•50mins
#19

18 - Therapy is Sin

Amanda tells Kyle all about Bill Gothard's, uh, unique approach to mental health, counseling, and especially counseling abuse survivors. We learn all about reins (send help), how everything is our own fault (especially abuse), and how to get more serotonin (according to IBLP and not medically verified). This episodes takes about as many turns as Bill's twisted approach to mental health. We laugh, we cry, Kyle experiences shock, and Amanda remembers why she's still going to therapy today. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-01-08•1hr 9mins
#20

19 - So Shall Thy Poverty Come to Thee

Amanda tells Kyle what caused her to become a workaholic (spoiler alert: IBLP teachings). She walks through the ideology that is burned into her brain about work ethic and what it takes to be a “good” person. Bill Gothard’s twisted interpretation of the Bible makes another appearance, and Kyle shares the strange phenomenon that occurs for Amanda medically when she works too much. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-01-15•57mins
#21

20 - Demonic Cabbage Patch Kids

Kyle finally gets his wish as he and Amanda discuss the infamous Cabbage Patch Kid dolls and the IBLP teachings surrounding them. Amanda shares the requirements Bill Gothard made of all cult families who owned these dolls, as well as a few other popular toys. Get your burn barrels ready and prepare to cast out some demons, folks!Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-01-22•21mins
#22

21 - Seven Basic Needs of a Husband

In a shocking turn of events, Kyle teaches Amanda IBLP's seven basic needs of a husband. Amanda is traumatized. Hilarity ensues.Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-01-29•1hr 5mins
#23

22 - Seven Basic Needs of a Wife

Kyle continues teaching Amanda about the Seven Basic Needs -- but this time we're looking at the wife. Shockingly (haha), her needs are a lot simpler and less taxing than the needs of a husband. The needs of a wife are not backed up by biblical text, but they sure are Duggar-approved! Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-02-05•50mins

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#24

23 - Will You Be My Eye Trap?

In a special episode for the week of Valentine's Day, Amanda and Kyle discuss Wisdom Booklet 15's teachings on the importance of modesty, how to avoid eye traps that might make a man lust after you and commit adultery with you in his heart, and the medical implications of immodesty and eye traps. Amanda also shares her bio mom's insight regarding the inherent evil of lingerie--even in the context of marriage. Make sure you listen to this episode because it turns out modesty is super important for your health and medical well-being. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-02-12•56mins
#25

24 - Eyes Down!

Amanda unpacks the phrase "eyes down" and its implications within her bio family and explains code word "Nike" from the Shiny Happy People docuseries. Join us for a trip down memory lane as Amanda describes battles against billboards and bikinis, tells Kyle about learning the word "sex" from a childhood friend, and shares the family rules for watching movies. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-02-19•52mins
#26

25 - MLMs and the Cult

In January, we had the opportunity to sit down with special guest Maureen Maus and talk about Multi-Level Marketing – specifically the ways their tactics overlap with cults. We also discuss how MLMs tend to target women, and often women in religious environments who must work from home. Maureen teaches us how MLMs seem to adopt spiritual language, which appeals to individuals in cults, and Amanda shares how certain leaders in the IBLP cult used their position to influence members to join an MLM. So...are MLMs cult-ish? Are they preying on women who have limited work options? Listen and let us know!Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-02-26•1hr 7mins
#27

26 - Demonic Backbeats

Welcome to another analysis of crazy IBLP cult teachings! This week, we tackle Bill Gothard's Basic and Advanced Seminar materials regarding music, what is holy, what is unholy, what will definitely deform your brain cells, and what will cause your vegetables to grow larger. Spoiler alert: most of the world is probably going to hell due to unholy taste in music. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-03-04•54mins
#28

27 - A Day in the Life of a Cult Kid

Amanda tells Kyle what a typical day looked like for her in the IBLP cult, complete with baking bread, caring for her younger siblings, and hiding from the police. She also talks about special circumstances, such as weekly cult gatherings and preparing to spend time around non-cult relatives and their secular influence. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-03-11•1hr 9mins
#29

28 - Q&A Session #2

Join Amanda and Kyle as they answer more listener questions and discuss issues like taking their potential future kids to church, if religions are cults for real tho, if you can accidentally become a cult leader, why Amanda’s relatives never intervened when they learned about the sexual assault, and if forming a cult to address daylight saving time is a worthy cause. Amanda shares some exciting personal news and tells the story of how she met the people she calls Mom and Dad. She also gives exact wording for how her bio relatives can go on the record in support of her. Take notes. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-03-18•1hr 7mins
#30

29 - Discipline in the Cult

Blanket training, 3x training, the abusive tactics of Michael and Debi Pearl... Amanda and Kyle take an insider look at the types of discipline encouraged and endorsed by the IBLP cult. From hiding beating implements in neighborhood culverts to memorizing routes to safety, Amanda describes a childhood at the mercy of an abusive mother and her own road to recovery as an adult. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-03-25•1hr 14mins
#31

30 - The Ten Unchangeables

Amanda sings a cult song from her childhood. Kyle is confused. They break down the meaning of each of the Ten Unchangeables, and IBLP word salad makes a reappearance. Amanda tells Kyle more about attending The Children's Institute for some important childhood brainwashing and why Amanda was so prepared for the military. Also: it turns out some of Bill Gothard's unchangeables can be changed. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-04-01•46mins
#32

31 - The Military and the Cult

Amanda shares some of the most embarrassing moments from her military career. Turns out growing up in the IBLP cult means there's a lot of slang and innuendo that goes right over your head. A best practice is probably not to repeat any new phrases until you Google them, but sadly that is not what happened. Amanda also tells Kyle about some of her greatest successes in the military and how growing up in a cult helped her cope with military training and other high-pressure environments. Kyle asks Amanda the greatest hinderance she faced as a female cult kid who went into a STEM career field in the military, and it just so happens that you really do need to know more math than fractions. But also, according to the cult, females are not supposed to be in the military. This episode (or at least the good parts of this episode) is dedicated to the men and women with whom Amanda served, will forever love, and for whom she will always be grateful. Correction: Amanda mentions "431 paperwork" in the episode. What she referred to is actually called AETC Form 341 . Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-04-08•1hr 11mins
#33

32 - But Did You Cry Out?

Amanda tells Kyle about Bill Gothard's made up "Law of Crying Out" which - surprise, surprise - places equal blame on victims and perpetrators. Amanda grew up being taught this ideology as part of ATI's educational curriculum and bought into it for much of her life until adulthood. She tells Kyle about the different responses humans have to crisis and assault and considers that Bill used his publications to groom his next generation of victims. Together, Amanda and Kyle discuss non-cult ideology of culpability around assault and talk about what support looks like for survivors. Link to Amanda's bookSend us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-04-15•53mins
#34

33 - Let's Talk About Sex

Amanda and Kyle respond to many listener questions about reaching a healthy sex life after experiencing sexual trauma in or outside a cult. They discuss different therapy modalities that helped Amanda heal, why females in the IBLP cult dissociated from their bodies, and why distance from harmful people helps the healing process. Amanda mentions Rosen therapy for somatic healing. If you are interested, you can check out the Rosen Institute’s website to learn more and see if there is a practitioner near you. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-04-22•45mins
#35

34 - What If I'm Weird?

Amanda and Kyle discuss what it's like to leave a cult and be that "weird" person trying to navigate the real world. Amanda shares the hurdles she faced as a weird person after leaving the IBLP cult, the process of recognizing she was different than those around her, and how she made non-cult friends. Amanda and Kyle talk through the challenges of assimilating to society after leaving a repressive environment, and Amanda shares lessons learned along the way to embracing her past and her weirdness. They also discuss helpful ways "normal" folks can react to folks who grew up in oppressive or repressive environments and might struggle socially. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-04-29•57mins
#36

35 - Adoption and the Sins of the Father

Amanda tells Kyle about Bill Gothard's teachings on adoption. It turns out adoption is considered a medical situation. It also turns out couples who can't have biological children shouldn't adopt because, according to Bill, God doesn't think they should be parents. Amanda explains the concept of "sins of the father" and how Bill taught adopted kids brought the sins of their lineage into their adoptive families. Amanda and Kyle discuss how Bill found every conceivable way to exert power and control over IBLP cult members and what Amanda left behind from cult ideology around adoption. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-05-06•40mins
#37

36 - I Hate Mother's Day

In an angsty and emotional conversation, Amanda tells Kyle about the complexity of Mother's Day with an abusive mother. Amanda shares how the IBLP cult enabled parental abuse and what it’s like to cut ties with abusive parents. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-05-13•47mins
#38

37 - No Sex on Saturdays!

Thanks to some help from a listener, Amanda and Kyle finally tackle their long-awaited topic: Bill Gothard's teachings on sex rules in marriage! To absolutely nobody's surprise, the IBLP cult has a lot to say (ahem, dictate) about how married people go about their sexual relationship -- including days they should not have sex. Amanda and Kyle also answer a listener question about how to be authentic and true to yourself as a non-Christian with many friends and family members who are devout Christians. Links to articles mentioned in the episode:G. Richard Fisher articlePatheos blog postSend us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-05-20•54mins
#39

38 - Q&A Session #3

Coming to you live from the middle of a cross-country move, Amanda and Kyle answer more listener questions. They discuss the impact of cults/trauma/sexual assault/sin on health, and Amanda shares how she overcame her IBLP cult-induced beliefs that her medical struggles were punishment from God. Amanda also recommends some books written by people who left other cults. Books:UnculturedEducatedA Billion YearsSend us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-05-27•35mins
#40

39 - The Halls of Satan

Kyle teaches Amanda about the experience of growing up in public school. It all started over a dinner date conversation that resulted in running back to the Airbnb to record Amanda's questions/shock/terror about "evil public school." The IBLP cult taught that public school was immoral, so Amanda had a lot to learn about the concept of public education in general. Additionally, Amanda and Kyle answer a listener question about if they would still be in Christian church if they had a different experience growing up. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-06-03•1hr 16mins
#41

40 - The Music that Saved Me

In the most vulnerable episode to date, Amanda shares her songwriting diary and describes how the music helped her cope with reporting her brother, losing her biological family, going through a divorce, struggling with her mental health, and, ultimately, finding hope, love, and joy in life. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-06-10•1hr 25mins
#42

41 - Wisdom Booklet #1

What do Celine Dion and Wisdom Booklet have in common? Well, it's all coming back to me now as Amanda and Kyle go down the rabbit hole (or up the mountain?) into the world of ATI where male supremacy makes an immediate appearance. Listen along as Kyle reacquaints Amanda with the concepts of the cult's flagship homeschooling curriculum. And if you were ever curious as to why Christians should learn math, Wisdom Booklet is here to answer that burning question for you. Welcome to Amanda's personal educational hell. Enjoy. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-06-17•52mins
#43

42 - Don't Get Locked Out

Amanda and Kyle are reunited for another episode! They answer some listener questions, then Kyle asks Amanda about something she mentioned in passing that startled him and required further investigation. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-06-24•52mins
#44

43 - Courtship in the Cult

A conversation Amanda has put off for a long time plays out amid trauma laughs, real laughs, and incredulity (on Kyle's part). Join us for a conversation about an IBLP cult staple: courtship. Presented as an alternative to "secular dating," courtship is Bill Gothard's highly controlled and supposedly impeccable standard for relationships. Amanda and Kyle talk about the espionage inherent in the courtship process, Old Testament stories taken literally and implemented, the complete disregard for holistic attraction, and—of course—how men were in charge of the entire process and the young woman being courted had very little to no say over her relationship. It's a ride; thanks for going on it with us. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-07-01•1hr 11mins
#45

44 - Amanda's Courtship Story

Amanda shares her own courtship experience and the ill-fated romance that followed. She explains purity culture concepts such as "giving away your heart," being a "chewed up piece of gum," and being a "trampled garden." Amanda and Kyle discuss how Amanda's ex found out about her childhood abuse and how that information impacted their relationship, and Amanda explains to Kyle how the IBLP cult taught that women were more adversely affected by sex outside of marriage than men.Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-07-08•56mins
#46

45 - Applying Levels of Friendship to Dating

In the next installment of courtship in the cult, Amanda tells Kyle all about the IBLP Basic and Advanced Training Seminar's instruction regarding the four levels of friendship and how they govern dating or courtship relationships. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-07-15•28mins
#47

46 - Courtship and the Ten Unchangeables

The Ten Unchangeables make a reappearance in the courtship process. The IBLP Advanced Seminar Textbook lays out intense instructions for how to interrogate a potential romantic partner. Kyle is incredulous, Amanda is shocked he's still shocked by cult material, and much laughter ensues. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-07-22•38mins
#48

47 - Development of an Immoral Woman

Amanda and Kyle discuss the IBLP Advanced Seminar seven-step chart about how a woman becomes immoral. Obviously, this is all “supported” by random verses from the King James Version of the Christian Bible. So, normal cult stuff. Amanda shares her childhood judgement of females who wore clothes that actually fit (so immoral) and her fear of becoming a Strange Woman. Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-07-29•25mins
#49

48 - A State Prosecutor's Perspective on Amanda's Case

A special guest joins us to discuss the case against Amanda's brother. Jennifer, an Assistant District Attorney and podcast listener, prosecutes sexual assault cases in her state and has some interesting thoughts on Amanda's experience as a witness, the politics that impacted the case against her brother, and the legal outcome of the case. Amanda, Kyle, and Jennifer have a heartfelt conversation about the impact of the legal process on sexual assault survivors, the innovative support systems available to survivors who report, and the importance of believing survivors. Jennifer also explains how she builds rapport with survivors, prepares them for court, and selects a jury. We laughed and cried our way through this episode, and we hope you find it as meaningful to listen to as we did to record it.National Child Advocacy Center House, Alabama Place Family Justice Center The HERO program Alabama Child Advocacy Center Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-08-05•1hr 29mins
#50

49 - The Seven Phases of a Godly Courtship

Amanda and Kyle embark on a perilous journey through more cult ideology around dating, sex, marriage, and purity. Bill's vision (for everyone except himself and his brothers) involves some pretty steep expectations of young men that are, dare we say, impossible in 2024. Young women fare much better under Bill's system in that they aren't supposed to do anything but be quiet, grateful, and without expectations. All of this ideology is straight out of the Advanced Seminar, and we do not recommend it unless you like oppression.Send us text! Please note this platform only supports one-way communication. Support the show

2024-08-12•39mins

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