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If You're Listening

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Podcast Summary

“If You’re Listening” invites you to dive into the chaos of our world with an insightful blend of humor and critical analysis. Each week, Matt Bevan takes listeners on a journey through the most pressing global issues, from the ramifications of authoritarian regimes to the strange intricacies of public health debates, like the controversial fluoride in drinking water. With notable guests from politics, science, and journalism often joining the conversation, the show offers a unique perspective on current events. Imagine hearing thought-provoking insights from experts discussing everything from the marriage of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the challenges posed by inflation and AI. Bevan’s witty commentary and engaging storytelling make complex topics digestible and entertaining. Whether you’re a news junkie or just curious about the world’s happenings, “If You're Listening” delivers an essential dose of understanding in an unpredictable landscape. Tune in for a fresh perspective that keeps you informed and intrigued.

#1

RFK Jr v Fluoride

Putting fluoride in drinking water has often been called one of the most successful public health measures in human history. But since the very beginning of fluoridation programs in the 1940s, it’s been plagued by misinformation and furious opposition. Now with Robert F Kennedy Jr at the helm of the US Department of Health, the Trump Administration is leading the charge to get states to ban the use of fluoride in water - and he’s succeeded in Utah and Florida. So when did this anti-fluoride scepticism begin? And can it be stopped? Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-06-0421mins
#2

How a world leader kept a secret from 1.4 billion people

A little trivia question for you... is Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi married? He’s gotta be, right? World leaders do tend to be married, and someone like Modi probably is. But, picture him at a big rally does he have a spouse there with him? You can't can you? Well, it turns out Narendra Modu is married and his carefully crafted image of a bachelor was up-ended when it emerged that he had a wife who had been kept secret for decades. In this bonus episode of If You’re Listening Matt chats to Avani Dias who dove into this story as part of her work on the podcast series Looking for Modi. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-06-0224mins
#3

Why Pakistan fights India

India and Pakistan have agreed to a temporary ceasefire, but tensions between the two nuclear-armed nations are still running high. There are factions in both governments that think a war might be a good thing for them politically. The old saying goes that most nations have an army, whereas Pakistan is a place where the army has a nation. So will nationalistic rhetoric from Pakistan’s military lead an inevitable escalation into all-out war? This is the second episode in a two-part series where we take a look at both sides: India and Pakistan. Why they want to fight, and what they have to lose. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-2825mins
#4

Why India fights Pakistan

After a brief moment where two nuclear powers looked to be on the verge of war, India and Pakistan have agreed to a temporary ceasefire. But Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi says it’s not an end to hostilities, just a pause. The scary thing is - there are factions in both governments that think a war might be a good thing for them politically. So why is that and will it inevitably lead to a deadly conflict? Over the next two episodes, we’re going to take a look at both sides: India and then Pakistan. Why they want to fight, and what they have to lose. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-2122mins
#5

Howard Lutnick and The Gates of Hell

When two planes crashed into the World Trade Center towers on September 11 2001 Howard Lutnick lost 658 of his colleagues. It was a tragedy of unthinkable proportions which we covered in last week’s episode. But Howard Lutnick lost something else that day and Matt can’t stop thinking about it. In this bonus episode of If You’re Listening we take a look at the most famous sculptor since Michelangelo; Auguste Rodin, and his work, “The Gates of Hell” which was on the 101st floor of the North Tower that day, and hasn’t been seen since. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-2020mins
#6

The man betting big on Trump's tariffs

The man behind Trump’s trade war is Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and his backstory is extraordinary. He’s been a hero, he’s been a villain, he’s been a sympathetic figure and also one of the most hated men in America - and all of that is even before he attached himself to Donald Trump. Over the last few months, gambling with tariffs has caused economic chaos and sent global markets into a tailspin… but Howard Lutnick is clearly all in. So why is the Commerce Secretary so reckless when it comes to the future of America’s economy? Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-1425mins
#7

Australia vs the Internet: Conservative kill screen

Just a few months ago Elon Musk was heralded as a political kingmaker when he had a hand in helping Donald Trump win the US election. Musk has since meddled in the politics of the UK, Germany, Spain and elsewhere but has struggled to convert his political prowess into victories for his chosen Conservative parties. I n fact, being in any way similar to Trump or Musk has been a dead weight around the ankle of political campaigns over the last few months. It was clear the DOGE dynamism had officially worn off when federal elections in Canada and Australia saw both conservative parties lose by a landslide… Given that Musk and the other tech bro billionaires have so much influence over how we communicate... why are they seemingly struggling to actually influence our politics? If you're around Newcastle on the 18th of May, come along to the live show of If You're Listening at the Young People's Theatre - tickets available here: Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-0724mins
#8

Australia vs the Internet: Misinformation overload

To scroll through social media during an election campaign in 2025 is to experience some of the worst misinformation. But an online soup of bots spouting partisan talking points wasn’t inevitable, even in recent years. After the 2016 election of US President Donald Trump and UK vote for Brexit, it was clear that online platforms like Facebook and Twitter were used to target voters with misinformation and disrupt political discourse enough to sway elections. As a result, the social media giants really tried to crack down on harmful content spreading online…or at least they pretended to. But in the last year or so, they’ve almost completely given up… and the vast digital sea of misinformation has become more dangerous than ever. If you're around Newcastle on the 18th of May, come along to the live show of If You're Listening at the Young People's Theatre - tickets available here: Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-3026mins

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#9

Australia vs the Internet: RIP your newsfeed

When US President Donald Trump was inaugurated in January, the world’s three wealthiest people stood right behind him, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. All own massive online platforms. These tech billionaires are now major political players in their own right, but for the last 15 years the platforms they control have shaped political debate, changed how people feel about their governments and gathered information on voters that tells politicians which buttons to push. The Australian government has attempted to force the social media giants to pay for the news that they profit from and that worked… for a little while. But in the last year the broligarchs have torn up those contracts and are embracing a brave new newsless world – which isn’t great news for Australia’s upcoming federal election. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-2324mins
#10

The secret weapon that changed war forever

In the middle of the 1800s, the Confederate army built a stealth vessel that could travel undetected underwater to give them the military edge over the Union...so did it work and how has it impacted military innovation since? In this special episode of If You’re Listening, Matt Bevan sits down with Marc Fennell to talk about his new ABC RN show, “No One Saw It Coming”. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-1631mins
#11

Australia vs the Internet

You’re not losing your mind, the internet is different now. The 2025 Australian federal election will be the first in a decade where news isn’t readily available on social media, and there’s no effort to fact check or moderate what is there. The billionaires behind the major tech platforms aren’t just background characters in politics anymore; they’re centre stage, making decisions around misinformation, bankrolling candidates, generating content that aligns with their own ideology and broadcasting it to the masses. Not only has the fight against misinformation online been lost, sometimes social media feels entirely divorced from reality. While the United States government has been incapable of regulating the tech giants, and now seems to have been taken over by them, Australia has made multiple attempts to push back. In this series from If You’re Listening, Australia vs the Internet looks at Australia’s attempts to rein in big tech, and how it's shaping the Australian election. First episode drops Thursday 24th April. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-142mins
#12

How Japan dodged a global housing crisis

Australia’s housing market is in the midst of a crisis that feels like it will never be solved and now housing is one of the major battlefields of the upcoming federal election. In this episode of If You’re Listening originally published last year we head to Japan, where 30 years ago, houses were the most expensive in the world. Today home ownership in Tokyo is comparatively affordable with plenty of housing stock up for grabs – so how did they achieve this massive turnaround? And is it something we could do here in Australia? This episode was originally published on the 28th March 2024 Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-0917mins
#13

Can Tesla survive Trump and Elon's bromance?

It has not been a good year so far for Elon Musk’s car company Tesla. Stocks are plummeting and sales are falling even faster as people around the world who are opposed to his involvement in the Trump Administration boycott the company. That’s been accompanied by arson and vandalism at Tesla dealerships around the world. But this isn’t the first time that a company has come under sustained attack for its connections to a Presidential administration. For three decades, one of America’s biggest beer companies was subject to a boycott because of the conservative views of the family that owned it. How did that turn out? And what does it tell us about what’s in store for Tesla? Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-0223mins
#14

Why is Trump suddenly obsessed with rare earths?

Donald Trump is talking about rare earth elements like they are magic rings with the power to unlock world domination. The US President is on the brink of signing a multi-billion dollar deal with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, that would give the US access to Ukraine's rare earth minerals in exchange for financial security and continued military support in the war with Russia. Rare earths are critical for manufacturing electronics, batteries, magnets, and military weapons. But are these rare earth elements actually as rare and valuable as Trump has been led to believe? Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: And if you're a Newcastle fan come see If You're Listening live with Matt Bevan on Sunday 6th April at 4pm at the Conservatorium of music concert hall - Tickets are free! Find out more: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-2621mins
#15

Why France isn’t counting on Trump

Donald Trump’s sudden shift on Ukraine has come as a massive shock to most countries in America’s orbit. European leaders who have long banked their national security on US military protection are beginning to lose confidence in their most powerful ally. But there is one American ally that has been planning for this potential eventuality for decades. France has long been sceptical of how much America can be trusted and now they may be the only safe refuge for countries looking for new security guarantees. So how did they see this about-face coming? And what capacity does Paris have to be the new security guarantor for global democracy? Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: And if you're a Newcastle fan come see If You're Listening live with Matt Bevan on Sunday 6th April at 4pm at the Conservatorium of music concert hall - Tickets are free! Find out more: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-1924mins
#16

Russia, Trump is listening

Since he took office, Donald Trump has made a lot of decisions that fly in the face of traditional US foreign policy. He’s left Ukraine high and dry, he’s abandoning Europe, he’s slapped tariffs on America’s allies, and he’s floated the idea of seizing new territory in Greenland, Canada and the Panama Canal. And the big one: President Trump seems to have a great deal of time and respect for Russian President Vladimir Putin. So what’s the deal with Putin and Trump - is what we’re witnessing now just the beginning of their grand plans for a new world order? And what hints can we get on how things might unfold from a conference that happened 80 years ago between US president Franklin Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and Soviet leader Joseph Stalin in a little town called Yalta? This week on If You’re Listening, will Putin’s dream of an emboldened Soviet sphere come true? And if you're a Newcastle fan come see If You're Listening live with Matt Bevan on Sunday 4th April at 4pm at the Conservatorium of music concert hall - Tickets are free! Find out more: Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-1225mins
#17

Who will say no to President Trump this time?

In the United States, there are laws constraining the President’s power. The Attorney General and everyone who works at the Department of Justice aren’t meant to just do whatever the President tells them; they’re in charge of enforcing the law, whatever it is. So what will they do when enforcing the law doesn’t align with Donald Trump’s policies? In Trump’s first term, the Attorneys General and Justice Department staff prioritised the law over Trump’s desires, because that’s how democracies work. Is there any chance that will happen this time? Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-0519mins
#18

How Trump is sending the FBI back to the 1960s

Throughout Donald Trump’s campaign he declared that the Justice Department and the FBI were weaponised against him. Now that he’s US President, he’s making huge changes to both, putting loyal supporters in charge. Over two episodes, If You’re Listening looks at the massive transformation underway in the US federal criminal justice system, starting with the appointment of Kash Patel as Director of the FBI. For almost 50 years, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover used the bureau as a political weapon, and successive Presidents let him. The 50 years since his death have seen the FBI aim for independence from the President. Now, with Patel’s appointment, that work is at risk of being undone, with potentially terrifying consequences. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-02-2621mins
#19

What Elon’s DOGE cuts are really about

Billionaire Elon Musk is at the helm of US President Donald Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency, established to slash massive amounts of government spending as fast as possible. In just weeks they’ve dismantled agencies, cancelled programs and attempted to lay off tens of thousands of government workers. Everyone agrees that the US government is a mess, that it’s spending more than it earns and something should be done. And yet, there are mass protests across America against what Musk is doing. This week on If You’re Listening, can DOGE do what Musk and Trump say it will do? Adelaide, check out the full podfest program, including shows from Not Stupid and All in the Mind: Newcastle you can find details for our live show on April 6 here: Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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#20

Where Trump’s plan to ‘clean out’ Gaza came from

When US President Donald Trump announced his plan for America to take over the Gaza Strip, everyone was stunned. That includes the man standing next to him, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. President Trump says everyone he’s spoken to loves the idea. But who has he spoken to? In his first term as president, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner led efforts to broker peace in the region, and his approach makes this latest announcement make a lot more sense. This week on If You’re Listening, how Kushner and Trump turned geopolitics into property development. Are you in Adelaide? On March 1 we're performing live, with all new stories at the Adelaide Festival Writers' Week. Tickets are selling fast: Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-02-1223mins
#21

Can Trump bully Panama into giving back its canal?

Donald Trump started his presidency by picking a fight with Colombia. The US threatened its Central American neighbour with massive tariffs if it didn't accept planes full of handcuffed deportees. Colombia backed down — and that has serious implications for the rest of the region. President Trump is gearing up for negotiations over deportations and his new favourite issue, ownership of the Panama Canal. This week on If You're Listening, can one of the most divided, violent and vulnerable parts of the world find a way to fight back against President Trump's agenda? Are you in Adelaide? On March 1 we're performing live, with all new stories at the Adelaide Festival Writers' Week. Tickets are selling fast: Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-02-0522mins
#22

Will Trump's tariffs make America expensive again?

Donald Trump has liked the idea of tariffs for a long time, since before his first term as president. Now that he’s back in office he’s using them to do all sorts of things — threaten other countries, crack down on drug importation and bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States. He’s starting with a 25 per cent tax on imports from Canada and Mexico, a move that would have huge implications for America’s economy and its relationship with its closest neighbours. President Trump is promising it’s just the beginning, and that this won’t make goods more expensive for Americans. It’s been a long time since most developed countries have used tariffs in this way, but there is one US ally with a recent memory of something like it. In this episode of If You’re Listening, what can we understand about tariffs from Australia’s recent past? We're coming to Adelaide! Find tickets to our live show at Adelaide Festival Writers' Week here: Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-01-2920mins
#23

Putin or the EU? Georgia's big fight

The people of Georgia are in the streets of Tbilisi, protesting the ruling party’s recent election win. At the heart of the fight is whether the country should appease Vladimir Putin, or oppose him. For years Georgia was moving closer to the European Union, but the war in Ukraine changed everything. Now, billionaire oligarch Bidzina Ivanishvili and his Georgia Dream party are betting on a relationship with Putin, hoping to save the country from a fate similar to Ukraine’s. Today on If You’re Listening, the story of a democracy at the crossroads of the West and the East, fighting over whether to be afraid of Vladimir Putin or not. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-12-1822mins

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#24

The serious ramifications of Hunter Biden’s pardon

We want to know what you think of the show so we can make it better in 2025! Give us your feedback here: Hunter Biden has been a main character in far-right conspiracy theories for years, and Donald Trump’s associates have spent significant effort searching for proof that could lead to his prosecution. In the end, Hunter reportedly provided the only evidence that has mattered: a laptop full of terribly embarrassing and potentially incriminating material. The story of how that laptop found its way to Trump’s favourite lawyer Rudy Giuliani is almost too bizarre to believe. But the Biden family story has been improbably tragic for decades, and it was those tragedies that have seemingly steered the outgoing president to pardon his son despite the very real cost to his own reputation, and the country. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-12-1124mins
#25

Will Netanyahu ever face court for alleged war crimes?

We want to know what you think of the show so we can make it better in 2025! Give us your feedback here: The International Criminal Court in The Hague wants Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu arrested for alleged war crimes in Gaza. But international justice works differently to other forms of justice — it relies on everyone opting in. More than 20 years into its existence the court is yet to convict any world leaders of anything. As the first fugitive from the ICC who is also an ally to Western countries like Australia and France, this case is one that could make or break the court itself. So what does that mean for Netanyahu and his allies? And what does it mean for the idea that there are some crimes that go beyond borders, committed against humanity itself. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-12-0422mins
#26

Could Russia turn off the whole internet?

A Chinese-owned cargo ship called the Yi Peng 3 is sitting idle in Danish waters, after undersea internet cables were cut in the Baltic Sea. European officials have cried sabotage. It’s not the first time something like this has happened; similar events have seen cables cut in other parts of the ocean. There’s serious concern that China and Russia are planning more of these attacks, and the way the internet is set up, it wouldn’t take many of them to cause serious problems. So how vulnerable is the internet to undersea sabotage? And if a big global conflict were to break out, would the cables be the first casualty? Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-2722mins
#27

America's Last Election 6: How Trump’s banishment led to his comeback

After January 6, many who had stuck by Donald Trump through his presidency condemned his denial of the election, and his failure to stop the attack on the Capitol. Banished to Mar-a-Lago the former president was banned from major social media platforms, driving his messages and MAGA community underground, into a parallel online world. That response by big tech to the violence of January 6 was designed to stop it happening again. Instead, it found Donald Trump powerful allies, and fostered his comeback, one that would send him all the way back to the White House. This is the final episode of America's Last Election. We'll be back next week with an episode about something completely different. If you liked the series, please share it around. Editor's note: In this episode, host Matt Bevan states that the Biden administration found itself in a "lose-lose situation" when it came to prosecuting Donald Trump. While the position of Attorney General is appointed by the President, and sits within their cabinet, decisions over particular prosecutions are traditionally made without the President's input. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-2025mins
#28

America’s Last Election 5: Trump demands loyalty

Over the last four episodes we’ve told the story of Donald Trump’s denial of the 2020 election result. It’s a period of time many thought would disqualify him from another run for US president. Now, exactly four years later Trump is preparing to head back to the White House after a significant election win against Kamala Harris, and the way his last presidency ended has shaped his campaign. January 6th and the events that led up to it alienated many moderate actors in Trump’s orbit, and unless they’re brought back into the fold, this presidency is set to look very different to his last. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-1324mins
#29

Hello America: Chess at the White House

It’s Matt Bevan’s last 24 hours in Washington DC, and he’s leaving a very different place to the one he arrived in. Donald Trump is going to be president again, and in the United States, people from across the political spectrum are figuring out exactly what that looks like. Matt sits down with ABC Global Affairs Reporter John Lyons in sunny Lafayette Park to chat about the potential geopolitical impacts of a second Trump term and how world leaders are already scrambling to get Trump on the phone to strike a deal. This episode was produced by Kara Jensen-Mackinnon and Jess O'Callaghan. This is the final Hello America bonus episode of If You’re Listening, thanks for coming along for the ride. The next episode of America’s Last Election will drop next Thursday morning. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-0827mins
#30

US Results: Coffee with extra Trump

In this update from Washington DC, Matt Bevan is filling in as host for ABC News Daily to bring you an early morning update on all the events from overnight Australian time. In a spectacular victory, Donald Trump has secured the US election to become the 47th President of the United States. Matt is joined on the ground by Emma Shortis from The Australia Institute to explain where the Democrats went wrong and the Republicans went right - and what a more emboldened Trump with the support of the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court means for America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-0615mins
#31

Hello America: Trump’s path back to the presidency

As the night goes on, and key states in the US presidential election are called for Donald Trump, it's becoming harder to see a way that Kamala Harris wins the White House. Matt Bevan shares his view from a Washington rooftop on election night, where ABC News is covering the results. He reflects on the Harris and Trump campaigns, and what a second Trump presidency could look like. Matt will be back in this podcast feed on Thursday morning hosting a special episode of ABC News Daily, speaking with Dr Emma Shortis from the Australia Institute. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-0619mins
#32

Hello America: Queuing for Kamala Harris

It's election day in America! But in the dying hours of Monday night (and the campaigns), Matt Bevan took a train to Pennsylvania to stand in queue for a massive Lady Gaga concert — Kamala Harris's final event before election day. Luckily, you can get the speeches online. What you can't get is the vibe, which was apparent speaking to supporters in this kilometres-long queue. On the train ride home Matt and Dr Emma Shortis from The Australia Institute decide the Democrats' election-eve vibe was: things seem good for Kamala Harris ... nobody jinx it. We'll be back on Wednesday evening with an election-night update. Read Matt on ABC News: When do polls close and when will we know the result of the US election? Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-0527mins
#33

Hello America: Two trains and seven swing states

It's election eve in America, and Matt Bevan is in Washington DC. How did he get there? By train, from Detroit, where he took in the fall foliage from the comfort of his tiny bunk bed, and talked politics over breakfast with a fellow train-devotee named Bill. But neither Kamala Harris or Donald Trump is taking the slow train to election day -- both campaigns have whirlwind 24 hours planned, hitting the swing states key to winning the White House. Donald Trump is ending years of campaigning with a late-night rally that looks to soothe his superstitious mind, and Kamala Harris is throwing a massive garden party in Philadelphia. Speaking of which, Matt has another train to catch ... This episode was produced by Kara Jensen Mackinnon and Jess O'Callaghan. Catch Matt across the ABC's election coverage on ABC TV, ABC NewsRadio and digital platforms, including this one; we'll drop a bonus episode when results start to shape up on Wednesday evening AEDT. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-0516mins
#34

America’s Last Election 4: Pardon the riot

Eight months before January 6, a very similar mob stormed a different government building. Armed men, furious about an extension of COVID lockdowns, stormed the state Capitol building in Lansing, Michigan. It was a precursor to the march on the Capitol in Washington DC, with chants, signs and even protesters in common. But among some of the men in Michigan that day, a plot was brewing that was more sinister. It shows just how insidious and dangerous the lies spreading among Donald Trump’s supporters can be. If he wins, Trump has vowed to pardon those people convicted of crimes on January 6—what signal could such immunity send? We've released this episode of America's Last Election early, so you can listen before election day. The video of this podcast episode will be released on Saturday morning as usual. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-0424mins
#35

Hello America: Watching Trump from the bleachers

With only days until the election both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris are zigzagging across the United States holding rallies to shore up support. At a Trump rally in the suburbs of Detroit, Matt Bevan chatted to a whole lot of fans waiting in line about why they're voting for Trump and what happens if the election doesn't go his way. He and Insiders host David Speers debriefed in the car ride back to the city. If You're Listening's Hello America bonus episodes are produced by Kara Jensen Mackinnon and Jess O'Callaghan. Episode 4 of America's Last Election will drop early on Tuesday morning AEDT. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-11-0420mins
#36

Hello America: Trump or Treat

It’s Halloween in America, and with the countdown on to election day, things are getting spooky. In downtown Detroit, Matt Bevan meets early voters, trick-or-treaters, and samples local delicacies — thanks to everyone who emailed with tips. Keep them coming, Washington DC is next: [email protected] And as mentioned in the episode, if you have a question about the US election or our series America’s Last Election, email it through in the next few days. Matt will be kicking off election week by answering your questions in a live blog on ABC News Monday November 4, from 7AM AEDT. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-10-3118mins
#37

America’s Last Election 3: Trump's plan to reject results

In the United States, presidential elections rely on thousands of actual people coming together to scrutinise and then certify the results. That’s what will happen next week, when polls close on the race between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. So what would happen if they just refused to certify a result, for political reasons? In 2020, exactly this scenario played out, in an extraordinarily tense meeting room in Detroit, Michigan. In the four years since, Trump’s supporters have worked hard to try and replicate this roadblock around the country. In this third episode of America’s Last Election, If You’re Listening looks at what that could mean for election day 2024, and the weeks that follow. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-10-3021mins
#38

Hello America: Lost in Lansing

On the road in Michigan, Matt Bevan heads to the state's political capital of Lansing. There, he meets a swing voter named David who is all in on Trump, navigates the labyrinth that is the state Capitol building, and samples local delicacies on the I-96. Former top Trump advisor Steve Bannon is out of prison, and vowing to do what he can to help the Trump campaign win days out from the election, but the car radio is abuzz with a different story — the impact of comedian Tony Hinchcliffe's jokes on Puerto Rican voters in key swing states. Episode 3 of America's Last Election will drop on Thursday morning. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-10-3019mins
#39

Hello America: Motorcade in Michigan

Matt Bevan is on the ground in Michigan, Detroit, a key swing state in next week’s US presidential election. There are some things you just don’t get when you’re telling a story from your basement in Newcastle: candid chats with Republican voters on the plane, for one. Vice presidential motorcades screaming past you on the highway for another. Follow Matt as he travels through America in the lead up to election day, and hear from the people he meets along the way. Episode 3 of America's Last Election will drop on Thursday morning. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-10-2917mins
#40

America’s Last Election 2: The fake elector plot

After the 2020 election, Donald Trump searched desperately for any theory that would allow him to retain control of the White House. On Christmas Eve, his team called a constitutional lawyer named John Eastman, who gave them something to work with. Eastman’s theory relied on Vice President Mike Pence playing along. In this second episode of America’s Last Election, If You’re Listening looks at the theory the riot on January 6 was based on, and why Trump’s supporters thought it might work. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-10-2320mins
#41

America’s Last Election 1: The big lie

Donald Trump did not win the 2020 presidential election. But if you watched his speech on election night, you wouldn’t come away with that understanding. ‘Frankly,’ he said ‘We did win this election.’ In the months that followed, the story backing up that claim warped and changed, but at its core was a big lie about a supercomputer called ‘The Hammer’, an imaginary software called ‘Scorecard’, and a man with a long history of fooling the US government. And now Donald Trump is on the ballot again. Over five episodes, If You’re Listening looks at the transition period after the 2020 election, and what it tells us about the plan in 2024. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-10-1622mins
#42

How close did President Trump get to nuclear war?

Within months of becoming US president in 2017, Donald Trump threatened North Korea with “fire and fury”. Soon afterwards, he would tear up a nuclear deal with Iran and bring the US to the brink of war. And yet that war never came. This is the story of how Donald Trump resisted temptation and kept the peace. This is a repeat episode, it was first broadcast on September 21, 2020. You can hear the rest of that series on our website or in our podcast feed: America, If You’re Listening. News audio used in this episode comes from: Arirang News, Inside Edition, CNN, ABC America, Democracy Now, Fox News, CBS, ABC News, and France 24. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-10-0937mins
#43

Is AI a threat to humans?

The world's most famous artificial intelligence company, OpenAI — the creator of ChatGPT — was set up to create a superintelligent AI, while at the same time safeguarding humanity from an omnipotent robot overlord which could enslave us all. So is an AI apocalypse possible, and with wunderkind CEO Sam Altman in charge, will OpenAI be able to protect us from its own robots? This is a repeat episode. It was first broadcast on November 30, 2023. You can watch this episode now on YouTube. We'll be back with new episodes from October 17. Follow If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-10-0217mins
#44

Can India and China bury the hatchet?

After years of tension, diplomatic cold shoulders, and mountain skirmishes, both India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping appear to be looking for ways their nations can be friends again. So what’s changed between the world’s two most populous countries? And what would a closer relationship between India and China mean for the rest of us? Subscribe to If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-09-2516mins
#45

How US YouTubers were paid to spread Putin’s propaganda

This month, the US Justice Department unsealed an indictment of two Russian state media employees. It alleges that they were funnelling millions of dollars into the pockets of American YouTubers, known for their contrarian viewpoints and controversial takes on the war in Ukraine. The YouTubers say they are victims of a criminal scheme and did not know they were being paid by Russia. But it’s not the first time that something like this has happened. There’s a long history of foreign adversaries covertly paying Americans to spread fake news to other Americans—it’s a move right out of Nazi Germany’s propaganda playbook. Subscribe to If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-09-1820mins
#46

The sci-fi Saudi city that might be a scam

The massive infrastructure project NEOM sits in the Saudi Arabian desert, and the jewel in its crown is The Line, a futuristic city which looks insane. The AI-generated ads depict a car-free city, for 9 million people, housed between two mirrors. Despite promises of millions of residents by 2030, the project has been scaled back by 98 per cent. The Line will be more like a dot. So what the hell happened? And was it all just a scam? Subscribe to If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-09-1115mins
#47

How Ukraine called Putin’s nuclear bluff

Russia defends its enormous borders with the threat of nuclear war. It’s this threat that has long stopped Ukraine and its allies from attacking Russia on its home turf—there are ‘red lines’ that can’t be crossed without nuclear retaliation. Yet Ukraine just invaded Russian sovereign territory and still, no nukes. Volodymyr Zelenskyy appears to be calling Vladimir Putin’s bluff. It seems the ‘red lines’ were done in red pencil, not red pen. So how does this reshape the war, and what does it mean for Putin? Subscribe to If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-09-0418mins
#48

Why Hezbollah is attacking Israel in the Golan Heights

It’s a dangerous moment for the Middle East. Israel and Hezbollah exchanged heavy fire over the weekend, including attacks on a pretty unique pocket of farmland — an Israeli-annexed area called the Golan Heights. In 2019 then-President Donald Trump broke with the rest of the international community and recognised it as part of Israel. There’s even an Israeli settlement named after him. Now, the world is watching the Golan Heights closely, fearful that fighting there could escalate and become a massive regional conflict. Subscribe to If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-08-2818mins
#49

Could calling Trump 'weird' lead the Democrats to victory?

A shift is on display at the Democratic National Convention—from fear of Donald Trump to mocking him. After years of arguing Trump is dangerous, the Democratic pick for Vice President Tim Walz is changing the party’s attack strategy, calling their opponents 'weird'. This potential path to victory is not seen as very presidential. But could it work? Subscribe to If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-08-2121mins
#50

How Israel changed the way it assassinates enemies

In the early hours of July 31 this year, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated in the Iranian capital Tehran. It's presumed Israel was behind the killing, with reports detailing a complex operation by its spy agency Mossad. So if it was Israel that did this, why did they do it in such an extraordinary manner, and in Iran of all places? The answer tells us a lot about the complex political situation Israel finds itself in, where it feels the need for revenge, but only in a way that doesn’t alienate its allies. Subscribe to If You're Listening on the ABC Listen app. Check out our series on YouTube: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024-08-1419mins

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