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Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

ByCleveland.com - Advance Local
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Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe, Scott Patsko, Ashley Bastock and special guests on cleveland.com

#1

Which Browns rookie quarterback has the edge right now?

The Browns quarterback competition continued on Wednesday during the second open OTA practice of the team’s offseason program. It featured both rookie quarterbacks, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, getting 11-on-11, the first time we saw Sanders take team reps during an open practice. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe cover all things rookie quarterback battle on their practice recap podcast. They discuss why they believe Gabriel still has the upper hand, even if his performance isn’t necessarily ahead of Sanders right now. They also talk about the challenges awaiting them in minicamp and if it’s too early to speculate about either quarterback starting. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-06-05•28mins
#2

Which quarterback fits the Browns' scheme best? Hey, Mary Kay!

On Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot start off by discussing the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on Shedeur Sanders, Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett. They analyze the fit of these quarterbacks within the team's offensive scheme, the importance of receiver dynamics, and the potential vulnerabilities in the roster due to injuries. The conversation also touches on the implications of past draft decisions, particularly regarding Jed Wills, and the expectations for the upcoming season. Some of what they discuss includes: * Sanders needs to improve his recognition and decision-making. * Flacco has a strong grasp of the offensive scheme. * Pickett's development is crucial for the team's success. * Quarterback compatibility with receivers is essential for offensive success. * Injuries could significantly impact the wide receiver group. * The Browns are looking for explosive plays while minimizing turnovers. * The team's offensive scheme is designed to be quarterback-friendly. Chapters (AI-generated) 0:00: Introduction and Setting the Scene 1:11: Evaluating Shedeur Sanders' Fit for the Offense 5:22: Quarterback Comparisons: Flacco vs. Sanders 10:19: Kenny Pickett's Development and Challenges 14:47: The Importance of Scheme Fit for Quarterbacks 20:37: Receiver Dynamics and Quarterback Compatibility 27:31: Injury Vulnerabilities in the Roster 34:09: Jed Wills' Career and Future Prospects Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-06-03•38mins
#3

Browns giving Shedeur Sanders team reps and the state of the quarterback competition

Yes, Shedeur Sanders is getting 11-on-11 team reps, even though we didn’t get to see any of them last week during the lone practice open to the media. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday’s pod from the Browns 25th annual charity golf tournament by discussing head coach Kevin Stefanski’s acknowledgement that Sanders is getting team work along with the other quarterbacks. They also discuss the state of the quarterback battle and where things stand with two weeks of the offseason program remaining. Then they get into what left guard Joel Bitonio had to say about the offense and a return to a more familiar Kevin Stefanski style of doing things. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-06-02•28mins
#4

Do Browns OTA stats matter? + A major award for Mary Kay Cabot

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Wednesday's OTA practice. They focus on the quarterback competition, particularly Shedeur Sanders' performance and emphasize the importance of context in evaluating practice stats. They also get into the significance of attendance during OTAs. Then they celebrates Mary Kay winning the Bill Nunn Jr. Award. Takeaways: *Shedeur Sanders' impressive stats need context. *Seven-on-seven drills do not equate to real game performance. *The importance of 11-on-11 reps in evaluating quarterbacks. *Shedeur Sanders is an intriguing prospect but currently QB4. *OTA attendance impacts team dynamics and player competition. *David Njoku's absence is more concerning given the new offense. *Mary Kay Cabot's major award. Time stamps (AI generated): 0:00 Introduction to OTAs and Shedeur Sanders' Stats 3:02 Contextualizing Quarterback Performance in OTAs 5:56 The Importance of 11-on-11 Reps 8:47 Evaluating Shedeur Sanders' Potential 11:57 OTA Attendance and Its Implications 18:07 Leadership and Team Dynamics in OTAs 25:00 Celebrating Mary Kay's Achievement Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-29•42mins
#5

Does Browns' quarterback pecking order matter in OTAs?

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski is stressing this offseason that the order his quarterbacks go during practice doesn't matter as much as we think it does. On Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe respectfully disagreed. They started their recap of the first OTA practice open to the media by assessing what they saw from the four-man quarterback battle, who went in which order and how they all looked after seeing the group together for the first time. They talk about Joe Flacco looking young, Kenny Pickett as the early front runner and how Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders handled their opportunities. They also talked about some other non-quarterback takeaways from the day. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-29•28mins
#6

Who will be the odd man out in the Browns quarterback room? Hey, Mary Kay!

The Browns are about to embark on a four-man quarterback battle and one of the four will end up as the odd man out when all is said and done. Whether that means a trade, a spot on the practice squad or just a release will depend on who it is, but it’s one of the questions on the minds of one of our Football Insider subscribers. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address it on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday on the first day of OTAs. They discuss the quarterback battle before getting to questions about the state of the wide receiver room and more. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-27•42mins
#7

10 things about the Browns (Pt. 2): Young QBs, young DTs and young WRs

The Browns will hold OTAs beginning next week and it has us thinking about some things. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the 10 things Mary Kay Cabot is thinking in a post she put up on Wednesday. In Part 2 of our podcast, they start by talking about what the young quarterbacks on the roster can learn from the old dogs they’re competing with. They also talk about the young defensive tackles and what the Browns hope to accomplish inside on the defensive line before they turn their attention to receiver and who they’re watching in that room. They wrap up the pod with some Memorial Day watching recommendations over the long weekend. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-23•31mins
#8

10 things about the Browns (Pt. 1): The schedule, the tush push and the O-line

The Browns will hold OTAs beginning next week and it has us thinking about some things.Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the 10 things Mary Kay Cabot is thinking in a post she put up on Wednesday. In Part 1 of a two-part podcast, they start by talking about the early schedule and how it might impact the quarterback battle before they turn their attention to the back portion of the schedule and how the Browns face a difficult finish to the 2025 season. They also talk about the “tush push” surviving and if the Browns could implement the play made famous by the Eagles before they talk about left tackle and expectations for Dawand Jones. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-22•43mins

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#9

How will the Browns manage their quarterback battle?

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the Browns' quarterback competition and how the Browns will conduct a 4-way battle for the starting job. They talk about the operation of the competition between Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders and how it will work over the remainder of the offseason program and the importance of having clarity before training camp.There's also the matter of off-the-field work. Who will stand out in the meeting rooms and how will all of that play into the decision. They even touch on Deshaun Watson and his recovery and if there's even a sliver of a chance he could play for the Browns again. Chapters (approximate and AI generated) 0:00: Introduction to the Quarterback Competition 5:11: Analyzing the Quarterback Depth Chart 10:49: The Importance of Pre-Snap Operations 15:55: Evaluating Rookie Quarterbacks 20:09: Deshaun Watson's Recovery and Future 34:10: Conclusion Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-20•37mins
#10

What expectations should Browns fans have for 2025? Hey, Mary Kay!

The Browns had a disappointing season in 2024. Should fans have expectations this year for a similar season? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answered that question on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. In this episode, they discuss: 2025 Season Expectations (1:18): Will the Browns contend for the No. 1 overall pick? QB Competition (5:30): Early quarterback competition thoughts with Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel, Joe Flacco, and Shedeur Sanders. Impact of Schedule (9:00): The difficult schedule and how it impacts the Browns. Shedeur Sanders Signing (17:05): Shedeur Sanders' contract, the money he lost and the opportunity he has. Draft Decisions (24:12): Why did the Browns draft two quarterbacks and two running backs? JOK's Future (33:16): A look at the possibility of JOK ever playing again after his injury. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-19•40mins
#11

What did we learn from Browns rookie minicamp with Lance Reisland

The Browns held their rookie minicamp last weekend and we’re taking one more look back at what we saw with our film guy, Lance Reisland, on a weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Dan Labbe and Lance talk about what they saw from the Browns’ draft class during the two days they were out at practice. They start with quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders and how they thought each fared. Then they move through the rest of the draft class and discuss how Mason Graham looked as well as the two running backs, Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson, and tight end Harold Fannin Jr. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-16•35mins
#12

Browns 2025 schedule release: No prime time games and not many breaks

The Browns 2025 schedule is out, meaning we know the when after already knowing the who and where. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe reacted to the schedule on Wednesday night shortly after its release. They start by discussing the difficulty of the first month and what the Browns face before they head to London in Week 5. They also talk about when an ideal time might be to put in a rookie quarterback and try to guess how many quarterbacks will start for the Browns this season. Lastly, they go over what it means for them as far as travel and places Browns fans should consider going. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-15•34mins
#13

Would Browns QB Dillon Gabriel have been drafted higher if he were taller? Hey, Mary Kay!

The Browns know the who with their schedule and Wednesday night they'll find out the when after the NFL releases its schedule. They already know one game -- Week 5 against the Vikings in London. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk about the schedule release on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday. They discuss the challenges of playing the Vikings in London before they look at some of this rookie class. Would Dillon Gabriel have been a first-round pick if he were only a little taller? Which non-quarterbacks stood out at rookie minicamp? Did the Browns draft some dogs in this class? Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-13•40mins
#14

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah will miss 2025; now what for JOK and the Browns?

The Browns will be without Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah in 2025 and his football future is in doubt after they placed him on the reserve/PUP list. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin their Monday podcast. They talk about Owusu-Koramoah the player and the person and how the Browns will replace him and if there's hope he could play again. They get into all the things Owusu-Koramoah meant to this defense. Then they take an abbreviated look back at rookie minicamp and talk about the discourse on the quarterbacks after they practiced for the first time with the Browns. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-13•31mins
#15

Browns rookie quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel, Shedeur Sanders take center stage at rookie minicamp

It was quarterback day on the second day of Browns rookie minicamp. Third-round pick Dillon Gabriel and fifth-round pick Shedeur sanders took center stage on Saturday when they spoke to the media before practice. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the day in their daily video report following the second practice of the weekend. They talked about what they heard from Gabriel and Sanders and what it said about each player’s approach to the quarterback competition. They also touched on a few other things some draft picks did, including defensive lineman Mason Graham throwing up during practice and linebacker Carson Schwesinger intercepting Gabriel. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-11•35mins
#16

What we learned about Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders at Browns rookie minicamp

The Browns opened their rookie minicamp on Friday and, unsurprisingly, the two rookie quarterbacks, third-round pick Dillon Gabriel and fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders, took center stage. Neither of them spoke to the media but they did practice for the first time in Browns uniforms. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the day on Friday’s rookie minicamp recap Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discussed the early pecking order of the two and why it matters who takes reps when, even if head coach Kevin Stefanski disagrees, and discuss what you can and can’t learn in rookie minicamp. They also touch on what they saw and heard from other Browns rookies on Friday. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-10•28mins
#17

What to expect from Browns rookie minicamp this weekend

The Browns are holding their rookie minicamp this weekend at the team facility in Berea, offering the first opportunity to get a look at their 2025 rookie class up close. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe previewed rookie minicamp on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, looking ahead to what they’re really paying attention to this weekend when they hear from rookies and watch them practice. They talked about the quarterback battle and how this weekend impacts that as well as the other rookies and why Browns fans could really find themselves falling in love with members of this draft class once they take the field. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-08•33mins
#18

The Shedeur Sanders experience is coming to the Browns

The Shedeur Sanders era really gets started for the Browns this weekend when they hold their rookie minicamp. Sanders and the rest of the team’s rookie class will be in town for their first taste of life in the NFL. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the Sanders experience and what the Browns and Browns fans can expect with Sanders around and the celebrity he brings with him on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss all the noise around Sanders and how he and the Browns will deal with it.They wrap up by taking a detour into the most surprising losses they’ve seen in-person. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-07•41mins
#19

Do the Browns have room for all 4 quarterbacks? Hey, Mary Kay!

The Browns will hold their rookie minicamp this weekend in Berea and we’ll get our first look at two of their four quarterbacks when Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders take the field. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the quarterback room and the coming quarterback competition on Monday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talked about the early quarterback pecking order and whether the Browns can go into the season with four quarterbacks on the roster. They also talk about the addition of wide receiver Diontae Johnson before they talk about the potential future of Nick Chubb and why the Browns aren’t the best fit for their long-time veteran who is currently a free agent. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-05•36mins
#20

Why did the Browns gamble on Shedeur Sanders?

The Browns made headlines on Saturday during the NFL Draft when they traded up and selected Colorado's Shedeur Sanders, a move made more surprising because the Browns picked Dillon Gabriel in the third round on Friday. What were they thinking? Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe discussed the quarterback selections on Part 2 of their draft recap podcast. What did they see in Gabriel? Why double down and pick Sanders? Did being so aggressive at quarterback leave the draft feeling short?They dig into all of it on this draft recap podcast. Listen to the first part on our YouTube channel, Apple podcasts or Spotify. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-05-01•1hr 0mins
#21

What did the Browns tell us with their NFL Draft strategy?

Our NFL Draft review week continues on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland joining our Wednesday edition of the pod to look at what the Browns did over the weekend. Lance, Tim and Dan Labbe go through the Browns' non-quarterback picks and dissect what they bring to the Browns and what they indicate for the direction the team is headed in 2025. They discuss the trade-down decision that resulted in Mason Graham and more picks, the two running backs they added and how they fit together and the addition of Harold Fannin Jr. This is Part 1 of a 2-part podcast. The three discuss the quarterback decisions on tomorrow's podcast. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-30•52mins
#22

Did the Browns win their trade down with Jacksonville?

The Browns started off the 2025 NFL Draft with a bang, trading down from No. 2 overall, acquiring the fifth pick, which they used on Mason Graham, the two picks they used on Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson and a 2026 first-round pick. Did they already win the trade? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked back on the trade with some hindsight on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about some of the other draft moves the Browns made and discuss if it made sense for this team to take two quarterbacks and two running backs, Nick Chubb's future and more. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-29•32mins
#23

Why did the Browns pick two quarterbacks in the NFL Draft?

The Browns took two quarterbacks in the NFL Draft over the weekend and both qualified as surprises, first picking Dillon Gabriel at No. 94 and then trading up to take Shedeur Sanders at No. 144. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about the choice to pick two quarterbacks on an Orange and Brown Talk draft recap podcast, kicking off a week of draft recap pods. They discuss why the Browns picked two quarterbacks, who they seem to favor based on where they picked them and how a four-person quarterback competition is going to play out. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-28•44mins

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#24

Emergency pod: Browns trade up and take Shedeur Sanders in the NFL Draft

The Browns made headlines on Saturday when they traded their last two picks on Day 3 of the NFL Draft to move up to No. 144 overall and pick Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the Browns' decision to trade up and acqure Sanders in a quick emergency podcast on Saturday. They start by taking you inside the moment the Browns made the trade up while three of their four draft picks were being introduced in a press conference and our reactions mid-press conference to the trade. Then they get into the addition of Sanders and what it means and how the Browns will balance the reality of Sanders being a fifth-round pick alongside all of the things that come with adding Sanders to the team. Follow us: On X: ⁠⁠ YouTube: h⁠⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠⁠ License: ⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-27•21mins
#25

Why did the Browns pick Dillon Gabriel on Friday in the NFL Draft?

The Browns wrapped up what was setting up to be a solid Day 2 of the NFL Draft by taking Oregon quarterback Dillon Gabriel at No. 94, a head-scratching move that left many wondering what they were thinking. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their recap podcast by discussing the decision to take Gabriel and why they think the Browns made the pick, how they could have better used the pick and why Gabriel was the quarterback the Browns had to have. They also recap the other picks they made that made Friday such a promising day before the Gabriel pick. Follow us: On X: ⁠ YouTube: h⁠ttps://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom⁠ Instagram: ⁠ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: ⁠ License: ⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-26•22mins
#26

What was the thinking behind the Browns' trade down?

The Browns traded out of the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday night and selected Michigan's Mason Graham at No. 5, acquiring extra picks, including the No. 36 pick this year and a first-round pick next year. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the Browns' opening round and tried to frame their decision to pass on Travis Hunter and trade down from Graham. They talk about the decision and what they think GM Andrew Berry's vision is with this trade. Then they look ahead to Friday and discuss what they think the Browns should do when they go on the clock. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-25•44mins
#27

Who will win the QB job? + Denzel Ward's growth and Browns options at No. 2

The Browns re-introduced Joe Flacco during a press conference on Wednesday, a day after the Browns offseason program began. Flacco will be part of a quarterback battle that includes Kenny Pickett and potentially a rookie. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the coming quarterback battle and if Flacco starting at quarterback is a given. They also talk about the maturation of Denzel Ward and the leadership role he's taken on as he has become a veteran on the team. Then they wrap up by talking about Thursday's first round of the NFL Draft and the Browns' options at No. 2 overall and what they might do on Friday if they start the second round choosing between Shedeur Sanders and Jalen Milroe. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-24•41mins
#28

Should the Browns trade the No. 2 overall pick?

The rumors keep flying with draft day getting closer and the Browns are front-and-center with the No. 2 overall pick, especially after the Titans made it known they plan on making their pick at No. 1. A report on ESPN stated the Browns and Giants, who pick third, are getting calls for their picks and they aren't slamming down their phones, but does it mean either team would actually trade the pick? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked through the possibility of trading the No. 2 overall pick on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and if they think it's something the Browns would actually do. They also talk about the No. 33 overall pick to start the night on Friday night and what the Browns could do with that pick. They wrap up the podcast by addressing linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah reporting for the first day of the team's voluntary offseason program on Tuesday and his future. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-22•29mins
#29

Will the 2025 NFL Draft be transformational for the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Stop us if you've heard this before: this NFL Draft is super important for the Browns. Still, it is really important for the Browns, a team coming out of a failed attempt to go all-in and win a Super Bowl and trying to remake their roster on the fly. They hold five picks in the first 104 and four picks on the first two days of the draft, including Nos. 2 and 33 overall. Will this be a transformative draft? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address that on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about how the Browns will use Travis Hunter, how aggressive they should be in pursuing Jalen Milroe and how big of a priority replenishing the offensive line. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-21•37mins
#30

NFL Draft defensive line preview + players the Browns have to take and a 7-round mock draft

The Browns go on the clock in less than a week and currently hold 10 picks, representing an opportunity to infuse much-needed young talent on the roster. Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe for their final draft preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Their focus in this podcast is the defensive line and they start by letting Lance make his case for a guy that he likes at No. 2 overall. Then they go through their favorite edge rushers and defensive tackles before they each make a case for a player they believe the Browns should take. They wrap up the podcast with a 7-round Browns-only mock draft and then peek ahead to future drafts with players they've noticed while watching this year's prospects. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-18•1hr 46mins
#31

Should the Browns bet on Jalen Milroe? + How they view Travis Hunter

Browns GM Andrew Berry held his predraft media availability on Thursday and he spoke about Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe in glowing terms. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start recapping their reaction to Berry's pre-draft availability on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also discuss what Berry had to say about likely No. 2 overall pick Travis Hunter and how the Browns plan to use him. Did anything change about their thoughts on what the Browns will do at No. 2? Could they consider trading out of the pick? Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-18•30mins
#32

Is it better for the Browns to miss taking a quarterback or miss by passing on one?

The Browns' decision at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft is starting to become clear and it's starting to look like it won't be a quarterback. This begs the question about what's the worse outcome: taking a swing at quarterback and missing or not taking a swing and having that quarterback succeed elsewhere? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing that question. Which would be a worse outcome for the Browns when they do turn in that card on Thursday night of the draft? Then they take a peek at the second and third rounds of the draft and discuss the positions they would prioritize on Day 2 as a "must-fix" position. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-16•35mins
#33

Will Travis Hunter succeed as a 2-way player and how will the Browns use him?

All the buzz around the Browns and No. 2 overall pick is centering on Travis Hunter, bringing up an interesting wrinkle with the Giants, who hold the No. 3 overall pick, scheduling a last-minute private workout with Shedeur Sanders, who has also been linked to the Browns throughout the draft process. What does that workout tell us? Is it more confirmation that the Browns are passing on Sanders in favor of Hunter? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the top of the draft and some of the latest developments on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. After they talk about the Giants workout with Sanders, they dive into Hunter playing two ways in the NFL. How do they think the Browns will use him? Do they think he can hold up playing both positions for a large number of snaps? They also talk about trading down and building through the trenches and touch on Abdul Carter, who hasn't been in the discussion much lately for the No. 2 overall pick. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-15•42mins
#34

Why would the Browns pass on Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay!

The NFL Draft is less than two weeks away and Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are starting to have second thoughts about the direction the Browns might go with the No. 2 overall pick. They start there on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Doesn't taking Shedeur Sanders make sense? That's the first question they answer and they discuss the dots they're connecting in starting to lean towards the Browns not taking Sanders at No. 2 overall and what it could mean for the second tier of draft prospects. If they do pass on Sanders, what direction could they go at the position? Could they acknowledge that maybe this draft won't produce their future franchise quarterback? Doesn't it make sense to just take the best player available and would it by the front office and coaching staff some time? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer those questions and more on Monday's podcast. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-14•44mins
#35

Emergency Podcast: Joe Flacco is back: What his signing means for the Browns

Joe Flacco is back with the Browns, signing a one-year deal on Friday and reuniting with Kevin Stefanski and Co. after the magical run they had together in 2023, when he helped them reach the playoffs. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe had to get together for an emergency podcast on Friday to discuss Flacco's signing and what it means for the Browns. Does adding Flacco change their draft strategy at all? What does it tell us about the offense with Kevin Stefanski taking more control? What are our expectations for Flacco now that he's back with the Browns? Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan go over all the aspects of Flacco coming back to Cleveland. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-11•33mins
#36

How does Travis Hunter fit with the Browns? + wide receivers, running backs and tight ends and Mock Draft 2.0

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dive deep into the NFL Draft, focusing on potential offensive playmakers for the Browns. They start by discussing the dual-threat capabilities of Travis Hunter and the implications of selecting him over Shedeur Sanders at No. 2. Then they talk through their favorite wide receiver prospects and how they fit the Browns' needs. Then they get into the running backs the Browns could land and Tim goes over what he believes is one of the most important things to look for when evaluating running backs. The discussion then shifts to tight ends. Lastly, it's mock draft time. They go through a four-round, Browns-only mock draft and debate each pick. Approximate time stamps (AI-generated) 00:00 Introduction to the Draft Show 02:00 Travis Hunter: The Dual Threat 05:40 Evaluating Travis Hunter's Potential 11:50 The Two-Way Player Dilemma 14:07 Travis Hunter vs. Shedeur Sanders 17:03 Wide Receiver Prospects for the Browns 39:04 Exploring Running Back Options 01:07:02 Tight End Talk 01:20:04 Mock Draft Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-11•1hr 56mins
#37

Is the Shedeur Sanders to Cleveland momentum fading?

In this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the latest quarterback news for the Browns, focusing on the implications of Louis Riddick's comments regarding Shedeur Sanders and the team's draft strategy. They explore the challenges of developing quarterbacks in Cleveland, the impact of the Deshaun Watson trade, and the potential directions the team may take in the upcoming draft. The conversation highlights the complexities of the Browns' situation and the various factors influencing their decisions as they prepare for the draft. They discuss: * Louis Riddick's insights on Shador Sanders are significant. * The Browns' quarterback development history under scrutiny. * Deshaun Watson's trade has lasting implications for the team. * Kevin Stefanski's ability to develop quarterbacks. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-10•39mins
#38

How the Browns should approach a decision between Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter

The Browns appear headed for a decision between Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders and wide receiver/cornerback Travis Hunter at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft. Mary Kay Cabot wrote about her opinion on Tuesday and then jumped on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe to talk about her thoughts on the matter and hear what Ashley and Dan think about the decision. They discuss why it might be better to land a good quarterback over a great player at another position and why they would take Sanders. They also talk about the risk of missing on Hunter and Penn State pass rusher Abdul Carter vs. the risk of missing the opportunity to take a good quarterback. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-08•31mins
#39

Is it Shedeur Sanders or Travis Hunter for the Browns at No. 2? Hey, Mary Kay!

The NFL Draft is less than three weeks away and we’re brining back our Browns draft preview podcasts with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland. Every Friday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, we’ll preview a different area of the draft. This week, we start with the quarterback position. Tim, Lance and Dan Labbe compare Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders at the top of the draft and talk through if Sanders is the right option for the Browns at No. 2 overall. They also go through the second tier of draft quarterbacks and some of the later-round options before they do a Browns-only mock of the first four rounds. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-07•38mins
#40

Is Shedeur Sanders the answer for the Browns? Orange and Brown Talk draft preview

The NFL Draft is less than three weeks away and we’re brining back our Browns draft preview podcasts with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland. Every Friday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, we’ll preview a different area of the draft. This week, we start with the quarterback position. Tim, Lance and Dan Labbe compare Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders at the top of the draft and talk through if Sanders is the right option for the Browns at No. 2 overall. They also go through the second tier of draft quarterbacks and some of the later-round options before they do a Browns-only mock of the first four rounds. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-04•1hr 52mins
#41

Should the Browns wait until 2026 to draft a quarterback? Hey, Mary Kay!

The Browns have done a good job of keeping their NFL Draft plans at No. 2 overall under lock and key and owner Jimmy Haslam even floated the idea of waiting until next year to fix the position. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answered questions from Football Insider subscribers on Wednesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. One of those questions: Should the Browns wait until 2026 to draft a quarterback? They discuss the importance of the position and why they both believe taking one at No. 2 is what they would do.They also answer questions about taking multiple quarterbacks in the draft before they discuss the potential of Kenny Pickett. They even answer a questions about how the Browns GM in the movie “Draft Day” would approach this draft. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-02•41mins
#42

Are we really talking up Kenny Pickett as a Browns starter? Kind of

The Browns first big move at quarterback this offseason was to acquire Kenny Pickett from the Eagles and now they’re starting to talk up the former Steelers draft pick as a potential Week 1 starter. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Pickett’s potential role as a starting quarterback. They explore the Browns’ overall quarterback strategy, including potential bridge options, and get into the long-term vision for the roster. How does Pickett fit in? They talk through all of it before they look at expectations for this season and spend some time on Kirk Cousins. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-04-01•28mins
#43

How much blame do the Haslams get for the Deshaun Watson trade?

Browns owner Jimmy Haslam admitted on Monday that the trade for Deshaun Watson was a big swing and miss and taking accountability for the mistake, leading many on social media to take it as a sign that the whole trade was the Haslams’ idea. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed how much blame the Haslams really deserve and how much should be spread around on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. First, they talk about what Haslam had to say about the No. 2 overall pick and not forcing a quarterback. They also talk about Kirk Cousins getting spotted in Cleveland, if he could still be in play and if that’s even the best course of action for the Browns. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-31•30mins
#44

Did Russell Wilson signing with the Giants tip the Browns’ draft plans? Hey, Mary Kay!

Did the Giants signing Russell Wilson give us a hint as to what the Browns are planning to do with the second pick in the NFL Draft? That’s what at least one of our Football Insider subscribers was wondering on today’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from our subscribers on the latest edition of the podcast. They discuss Wilson signing with the Giants, the Browns working out Cam Ward and if they should trade up for him and talk through some of the other options for the Browns in the draft. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-26•37mins
#45

Truth and fiction in the NFL Draft + Browns choices at quarterback

NFL Draft silly season in full form and, as long as the Browns are a candidate to pick quarterback Shedeur Sanders at No. 2 overall, they’ll be right in the middle of it. It happened on Monday when a social media rumor circulated about Deion Sanders and comments he likely didn’t make at a convention last week. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk draft season in 2025 and the world of high-profile quarterbacks. They also talk about Cam Ward’s pro day and if the Browns should consider making an offer to the Titans to move up to No. 1 overall before they get into more Internet rumors: Would the 49ers really trade Brandon Aiyuk? Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-25•35mins
#46

Resetting the QB market: What the Browns' options look like in NFL Draft, free agency

The NFL Draft is a month away and the Browns are setting out on the pro day circuit this week to get an up-close look at the quarterbacks in this draft. With the veteran quarterback market slowly starting to take shape and a draft decision awaiting the Browns, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took an opportunity to reset the quarterback market on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about where things stand in the draft and free agency and how the market will develop over the next month for both the rookies and the veterans. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-24•38mins
#47

Should the Browns trade up for the No. 1 pick in the draft? Hey, Mary Kay!

The Browns currently hold the second pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, but should they think about moving up to the No. 1 overall pick? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that idea and more in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Wednesday. Then they turn their attention to the potential of adding Carson Wentz as another veteran option this season. Do they prefer Wentz over Flacco? Is it as crazy an idea as it sounds? They also discuss the 2016 trade the Browns made with the Eagles allowing them to draft Wentz and also get into the future of Jedrick Wills Jr. and if he could return to Cleveland. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-19•40mins
#48

Assessing Browns' roster needs ahead of 2025 NFL Draft

A week into free agency seems like the perfect time to re-assess the Browns roster with the draft five weeks away. Where do things look good? Where do the Browns need help? Will they get it in the draft? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe go through the roster on Tuesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They go through the positions where the Browns might need the most help and try to determine if those positions are in good enough shape heading into the season. They even spend a little time talking about Nick Chubb and if the Browns should consider bringing him back now that the market for him is slow to develop. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-18•35mins
#49

Browns QB options: Veterans, draft picks and 2 in the first round?

We know the Browns are very much in the quarterback market and the game of veteran quarterback musical chairs is in full swing right now. Even Jameis Winston is getting involved with a visit to the Giants on Monday. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take a look at the quarterback market and where things stand and reset where the Browns are at on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They lay out some of the veteran options that are still available and what the Browns' approach is telling us about their draft plans. Then, they talk about the Browns' options in the draft and Mary Kay throws out an idea that not many have discussed to this point. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-17•35mins
#50

What message was Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett trying to deliver in his press conference?

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett held a press conference on Friday after agreeing to a record extension on Sunday and deciding to stick with the Browns after requesting a trade in February. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about Garrett’s press conference on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They get into the message Garrett trided to deliver about why he requested the trade and what changed to lead him to signing the extension — and why he said it wasn’t about the money. They also talk about the work he has to do to repair his relationship with the fans and why they don’t think he’ll regret staying in Cleveland, if he doesn’t win a Super Bowl. Follow us: On X: YouTube: Instagram: Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: License: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2025-03-15•27mins

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