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DarkHorse Podcast | Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

ByBret Weinstein and Heather Heying
460 episodes

Podcast Summary

On The DarkHorse Podcast, we will explore questions that matter, with tools that work. Weekly episodes of "The Evolutionary Lens" are co-hosted with Heather Heying, in which we use an evolutionary toolkit to reveal patterns in nature--including human nature. Other episodes will feature Bret hosting long form discussions. Some guests will be well known, others obscure, but all of them are chosen because they have demonstrated unusual insight. The state and future of civilization will be a recurring theme, so buckle up!

#1

Wisdom of the Ancients: Dr. Robert Clancy on DarkHorse

Bret Weinstein speaks with Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy AM on the subject of mucosal immunology.Find Dr. Clancy at The University of New Castle Australia: for your Liver: Tasty drink with milk thistle, ginger, dandelion & turmeric to support liver health. Save 30% of your first month at Chips: Delicious chips made with corn, salt, and beef tallow—nothing else—in loads of great flavors. Go to use code DarkHorse, for 20% off.Sundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to to receive 35% off your first order.*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

2025-05-30•1hr 9mins
#2

The Real Matrix: The 278th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

We begin with the HHS announcement that Covid shots will no longer be recommended to healthy children and pregnant women. What does healthy mean? And what are the conditions that provide release from liability for vaccine makers? Then, a discussion of kinds of immunity, and how vaccines are best delivered depending on how disease is transmitted. We compare what was claimed about the shots (they stop transmission!), and what Pfizer later admitted (that they did not know if the shots stopped transmission—but they had to move at the “speed of science”!). Also, a discussion of how to kill your pathogens by crossing ecological borders…and how to get rid of a botfly with a steak, or with ivermectin. Then: why are young male capuchin monkeys abducting baby howler monkeys on an island off the coast of Panama? Finally: a discussion of transhumanism, our future, our embodied selves, how we live on, what we owe our children, what our beloved dead would make of now, and how we, and the LLMs, could know.*****Our sponsors:Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at Beautiful showerheads that filter out the garbage without reducing water pressure. Go to to get free shipping; free returns within 60 days.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Kennedy, Bhattacharya and Makary on changing vax recommendations: Lon Jones on mucosal immunity (on DHP): Roos forcing truth...

2025-05-28•1hr 40mins
#3

The Mucus Mystery: Dr. Lon Jones, DO on DarkHorse

Bret speaks with Dr. Lon Jones, DO on the subject of the mismatch between modern humans and the environment they live in. Find Dr. Lon Jones, DO at DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.*****Mentioned in this episode:- Common Sense Medicine: Making America Healthy Again by Dr. Lon Jones, DO (commission earned)- No More Allergies, Asthma or Sinus Infections: The Revolutionary Approach by Dr. Lon Jones, DO (commission earned)- George Williams Paper: Pleiotropy, Natural Selection, and the Evolution of Senescence - Patient education: Ear infections (otitis media) in children (Beyond the Basics) - Indirect health effects of relative humidity in indoor environments - Turku sugar studies V: Final report on the effect of sucrose, fructose and xylitol diets on the caries incidence in man - Paul W. Ewald: Evolution of Disease (commission earned)- Commonsense Medicine: Healing from the Inside Out and Stopping the Next Pandemic (commission earned)- How Bacteria Stick

2025-05-27•1hr 8mins
#4

Occam’s Sledgehammer: The 277th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

It’s Prostate Week in Podcastistan: what happens when an MRI scan for prostatitis includes the injection of rare earth metals—should you, or shouldn’t you? Gadolinium crosses the blood-brain barrier if the barrier is not fully intact—does that affect your decision? Then: a letter from an MD-PhD student at Harvard prompts musings on the federal funding of science, what science is for, how complicit universities and many scientists have been for years, and what to do. Also: uterine transplants for “trans women.”*****Our sponsors:Timeline: Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to and use code darkhorse for 10% off your first order.Caraway: Non-toxic & beautiful cookware. Save $150 on a cookware set over buying individual pieces, and get 10% off your order at Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Gadolinium Contrast Dye: from Harvard: Education Research & Development Survey: et al 2018. Uterine transplantation in transgender women. Bjog 126(2): 152-156:

2025-05-21•1hr 43mins
#5

Anarchism Cataclysm: Michael Malice on DarkHorse

Bret speaks with Michael Malice about the vaccine injured, the importance of continuing to seek answers about what happened during COVID, and the topic of anarchism.Find Michael Malice on X at Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to for 27% Off Sitewide + Free Bedding Bundle(Sheet Set and Mattress Protector) with any Luxe or Elite Mattress Order through June 1st.Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.VanMan: Tallow and honey balm, deodorant, and many other amazing animal based personal care products. Go to and use code darkhorse10 for 10% off your first order.*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.*****Mentioned in this Episode:- Follow the Silenced, 2025 No Exceptions: A Story of Medical Tyranny in Australia White Pill (commission earned)- "YOUR WELCOME" with Michael Malice : Sharyl Attkisson Michael Malice Gets His Face Painted by Shaman Jake Chansley "YOUR WELCOME" with Michael Malice LIVE!: Kurt Metzger Brave New World (commission earned)- Brazil (commission earned)- Catch 22 (commission earned)- 1984 (commission earned)- Glenn Beck WA Homeland Security Memo NDAA 2012 Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged (commission earned)- Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead (commission earned)- The Anarchist Handbook

2025-05-21•1hr 49mins
#6

Report from the Foxhole: The 276th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

What happens when we commodify nature? The natural world is not doing well, and is not put here to do with as we want. How can we learn to appreciate nature, and environment, without jumping to conclusions about what is happening, or picking sides in an ideological battle that has nothing to do with actual wild nature? Also: how are DOGE cuts affecting scientists? Four people profiled in Science magazine reveal that some good science is being hit with chaos and uncertainty—but also that a lot of “science” funding that has been cut was suspect, at best.*****Our sponsors:Manukora: the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.Caraway: Non-toxic & beautiful cookware. Save $150 on a cookware set over buying individual pieces, and get 10% off your order at us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:But They Are Wild - scientists’ lives and careers are being upended. Here are five of their stories: of Valley Fever:

2025-05-13•1hr 59mins
#7

By Any Means Necessary? The 275th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Is MAHA under threat? If so, what is the nature of the threat? Following the nomination of Casey Means for Surgeon General, MAHA on-line has polarized: is she a Manchurian candidate, or is she what she appears? If she is what she appears, is her lack of focus on vaccine safety cause for concern? What is the value of experience, clinical and otherwise, in developing wisdom? How can MAHA, a movement forged in fire, maintain strength and rigor as the conditions change?*****Our sponsors:CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month.ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order.Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Photo Courtesy: in this episode:Nicole Shanahan tweet: Malone tweet: Malone substack:

2025-05-08•1hr 17mins
#8

Misinformed Consent: The 274th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

What’s in our medicines? There are active ingredients, and there are excipients, which is everything else. From colorants to emulsifiers to adjuvants, excipients hide many horrors, and it’s not even possible to know which ones are in your meds (or foods). Dairy that has been fortified with vitamins A & D also has seed oils and emulsifiers, but those things aren’t on the label. The government database that should have all the information is full of errors. Polysorbate 80, a common emulsifier in food and drugs, is so complex that it hasn’t been fully characterized, and is known to be cytotoxic generally, including being hemolytic—it breaks apart red blood cells. Meanwhile, Moderna’s Covid “vax” has even more contaminants than previously recognized.*****Our sponsors:Masa Chips: Delicious chips made with corn, salt, and beef tallow—nothing else—in loads of great flavors. Go to use code DarkHorse, for 20% off.Dose for your Liver: Tasty drink with milk thistle, ginger, dandelion & turmeric to support liver health. Save 30% of your first month at Beautiful showerheads that filter out the garbage without reducing water pressure. Go to to get free shipping; free returns within 60 days.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:FDA to ban petroleum-based dyes: fortified with seed oils and Polysorbate 80: et al 2016. An overview of pharmaceutical excipients: safe or not safe? Journal of pharmaceutical sciences, 105(7): 2019-2026: Pezzimenti on DarkHorse, Nov 26, 2021: et al 2024. Inconsistent excipient listings in DailyMed: implications for drug safety....

2025-04-30•1hr 53mins

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#9

Mad Scientists: The 273rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

The middle ground scramble continues. Elites redefine their positions as if they had it right all along, and explain why they definitely need to be in charge of more stuff. We have been waiting for the reckoning; instead we are getting the anti-reckoning. Herein: how science isn’t done, why the scientific method is for everyone, and evidence that most who consider themselves elite don’t understand science. Also: the UK is moving forward with plans to dim the sun, because apparently we learned nothing from Covid, and informed consent is optional.*****Our sponsors:VanMan: Tallow and honey balm, deodorant, and many other amazing animal based personal care products.Go to and use code darkhorse10 for 10% off your first order.Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Our elites don’t deserve this much hatred: of mRNA shots: to dim the Sun will be approved within weeks:

2025-04-23•1hr 53mins
#10

Rise of the Cosplaymanauts: The 272nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

This week in women: the UK Supreme Court declares that transwomen are not women, and women are lauded for putting on matching jumpsuits and being launched into space for a minute. In Britain, rapists can no longer pretend to be women; in the United States, we are asked to celebrate one of the oldest plays in the book—attractive woman attaches herself to wealthy man and attains power—and pretend that it represents female empowerment, while conveniently forgetting actually skilled women who have come before. Also: a hostage situation in Podcastistan: in which we explore the strange about-face of some prominent free speech warriors. Finally: the amazing institution that is Ralston College, whose themes are truth, freedom of inquiry, beauty, and fellowship.*****Our sponsors:Timeline: Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to and use code darkhorse for 10% off your first order.ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order.Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: courtesy of Blue Origin.*****Mentioned in this episode:How women won the gender wars, by Kathleen Stock: aren’t women in the UK: contracts to SpaceX, ULA & Blue Origin: shot at space for Amanda Nguyen: research team: NASA engineer Aisha Bowe, in Ebony: Murray in the New York Post: College:

2025-04-19•2hr 22mins
#11

The Power of Principles: Tom Bilyeu on DarkHorse

Bret Weinstein speaks with Tom Bilyeu on the subject of consciousness, philosophy, and the scientific method. They discuss the importance of a conscious approach to life, the utility of principles in achieving goals, and the challenges of navigating novelty in a rapidly changing world.Find Tom Bilyeu on Youtube at and on X at Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.Caraway: Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware. Save $150 on a cookware set over buying individual pieces, and get 10% off your order at DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

2025-04-16•2hr 18mins
#12

There’s a New Tariff In Town: The 271st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Tariffs, Trump, AI, nature, and science. Are the tariffs insane, or brilliant? Will Trump actually bring manufacturing back to the U.S.? How are the “reciprocal tariffs” calculated, what game is everyone playing, and how long will it take to know who wins? Then: AI marches us further into the Cartesian Crisis; can we restore our humanity? Scientific American claims that too much nature is bad for you (it’s not), and finally, some words from County Highway, and why we should consider being quiet and listening to Aslan.*****Our sponsors:CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month.Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to to receive 35% off your first order.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Carlson & Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent: Sachs – Trump is uniting the world against the U.S.: Perot in 1992, and the “giant sucking sound:” on “nuking supply chains,” quote-tweeting Flexport’s graph of the formula used to generate “reciprocal tariffs”: alignment on tariffs: turns images into full-body animations: American warns against spending too much time in nature: et al 2022. Is Greenness Associated with Dementia? A Systematic Review and Dose–Response Meta-analysis. Curr Envir Health Rpt 9: 574–590: Highway: College’s Sophia Lectures: Welcome(00:02:03) Sponsors: CrowdHealth, Pique’s Nandaka, Sundays(00:11:49...

2025-04-05•1hr 44mins
#13

Unfairness and the West: The 270th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss ridiculous op-eds and letters to the editor in Nature this week, and the concept of fairness. First: gender equity for female scientists in war zones, and for women in mining. Are these laudable goals? Also: is division of labor between the sexes inherently objectionable? How does the concept of homeostasis relate to a body being given pharmaceutical interventions, a society being given equity interventions, or a government being given bureaucratic interventions? Then: level playing fields are the sine qua non of the West – they work in science, markets, politics, everything. Internet algorithms in their current state are, in comparison, anti-Western. Using the analogy of a card game, we discuss luck.*****Our sponsors:ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order.Manukora: the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to for 20% Off Sitewide April 1st through the 30th.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Track gender ratios in research to keep countries, institutions and publishers accountable: grants to female scientists in war zones: to get more women into mining: & Provost 1973. Factors in the division of labor by sex: A cross-cultural analysis. Ethnology 12(2): 203-225: College’s Sophia Lectures: Spring is Cooking Along(00:11:25) Sponsors: ARMRA, Manukora, and Helix(00:18:20) Tracking Gender Ratios(00:32:5...

2025-04-02•1hr 38mins
#14

Staring Down Blackmail: Talking RFK Jr. with Charles Eisenstein

Bret Weinstein speaks with Charles Eisenstein on the subject of blackmail in American politics. They explore the complexities surrounding Zionism, the implications of antisemitism in political discourse, and the psychological mechanisms of coercion and blackmail that influence public figures.Find Charles Eisenstein on X at and on his website at *****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.Thumbnail: Jon Cherry / Stringer Getty Images News via Getty Images"*****Mentioned in this episode:RFK Jr tweet: Bret’s Segment on RFK Jr. on Episode piece in Salon on terrorism: “Rabbi tells Senate hearing on anti-Semitism that it's ‘not enough’ to be ‘not anti-Semitic.’" Tweet: Welcome Charles Eisenstein to DarkHorse(00:01:03) Is RFK Jr. Being Blackmailed?(00:04:15) Clarifying the Term “Zionist”(00:06:49) RFK Jr.’s Israel Support (00:12:24) The Abuse of the Term “Anti-Semitism”(00:18:26) Explaining the RFK Jr. Blackmail Question(00:21:23) How Collecting Blackmail Material Works(00:57:34) Reciprocity vs. Lineage Against Lineage Violence(01:29:14) Amnesty: Overcoming Blackmail(01:56:47) Anti-Anti-semitism(01:59:38) Closing

2025-04-01•2hr 0mins
#15

23andYou: The 269th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss 23andMe – what does its impending bankruptcy mean for data security, and why did people think their genetic data were secure before the company went into bankruptcy? As we protect existing rights laid out in the Constitution, we also need to innovate new protections in a world with new threats and possibilities. Going back to what was will not be sufficient. Then: Bobby Kennedy Jr. and anti-Semitism; and Columbia University’s response to the Trump administration as it tries to hang on to $400 million dollars in annual federal funding. Finally: it’s five years since our first Evolutionary Lens livestream—what did we say in that first episode? Were we right, or were we wrong?*****Our sponsors:Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware. Save $150 on a cookware set over buying individual pieces, and get 10% off your order at us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:23andMe initiates bankruptcy: midwestern Doctor considers 23andMe: Jr tweet: University’s unsigned 4 page letter: Evolutionary Lens, episode 1, March 24, 2020: College’s Sophia Lectures: Welcome to The Evolutionary Lens (00:03:55) Sponsors: Brain.fm, Pique’s Nandaka, Caraway(00:17:31) 23andMe in Chapter 11 and Data Security (00:24:57) Interesting 23andMe’s Family in Tech Connections (00:26:06) Bret & Heather’s Objections to...

2025-03-26•1hr 48mins
#16

Deportations, Doxxing, Measles Vaccine: 268th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss the JFK assassination, deportations, DOGE, Tesla, anarchists, flu, measles, vaccines, and crunchy Moms. What do we make of the 80,000 pages of JFK files that were released yesterday? Are immigrants who are in the U.S. legally protected by the Constitution? What are they allowed to say, or think? Does anger at Elon Musk and DOGE explain the left going after Teslas? Or maybe it’s not the left at all, but anarchists. What’s up with flu this year, and should you get a flu shot? How about a measles vaccine? Did the measles vaccine contribute to the drop in measles deaths in the U.S.? And why are mothers who are concerned for the health and well-being of their children rejecting the advice of experts?*****Our sponsors:Timeline: Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to and use code darkhorse for 10% off your first order.Helix: Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to for 20% Off Sitewide. ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:“From the river to the sea” is both hateful and protected: funding for Hamas via Qatar enabled October 7 invasion, Shin Bet reveals: This Year’s Flu Season Is the Worst in More Than a Decade: of, or died with? of measles deaths in the U.S. from 1919 to 2021: moms aren’t scared of measles: Welcome(00:05:24) Sponsors: Timeline, Helix Sleep, ARMRA Colostrum(00:17:09) JFK Files(00:28:50) Deporting Ma...

2025-03-20•2hr 4mins
#17

Prescription for Insanity: Laura Delano on DarkHorse

Bret Weinstein speaks with Laura Delano, the author of “Unshrunk: A Story of Psychiatric Treatment Resistance” on the subject of today’s mental health treatment and psychotropic medications.Find Laura Delano on X at and her book, “Unshrunk: A Story of Psychiatric Treatment Resistance” at episode is sponsored by:Jolie: For your best skin & hair guaranteed head to to try it out for yourself with FREE shipping.VanMan: Tallow and honey balm, deodorant, and many other amazing animal based personal care products.Go to and use code darkhorse10 for 10% off your first order.*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.Thumbnail:Maria Korneeva via Getty Images*****Mentioned in this episode:- The Challenge of Going Off Psychiatric Drugs A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century (commission earned)- Milgram experiment: Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America by Robert Whitaker (commission earned)- Drugs at FDA *****Timestamps:(00:00:00 Welcome Laura Delano to DarkHorse(00:01:47 Sponsor: Jolie Skin Co - The World's Best Shower Filter(00:03:39 The Impact of Diagnosis and Medication(00:09:50) Sponsor: VanMan - Organic skincare products and tooth powder!(00:11:59) The Evolutionary Perspective on the Need for Chemical Intervention(00:20:15) Informed Choice, Not Anti-psychiatry(00:26:14) Understanding Mental Distress in Society(00:36:56) The Impact of External Influences(00:40:26) Parents and Their Struggles(00:43:33) Laura’s Descent into Psychiatric Treatment(00:59:19) Facing the Reality of Mental Health Treatment(01:06:30) Systems of Control(01:14:17) Coming Off Psychiatric Drugs(01:48:42) The Science ...

2025-03-19•2hr 36mins
#18

MAGA, MAHA, and the Unity Movement: The 267th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss wheat and gluten; MAGA, Trump, Elon, and Massie; and elephants. First: the end to the first round of Bret’s European wheat experiment: what does it mean that he can eat European wheat, but not American wheat? Then: does Trump misunderstand the coalition that brought him to the presidency a second time? Will going after Thomas Massie be a strong move, or a bad move? Does Elon have too much power, and is he misusing it? How does masculinity manifest in this administration? Finally: elephants and their love of showers.*****Our sponsors:CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month.Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to to receive 35% off your first order.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Bret stands with Thomas Massie: Highway on this moment in time: three tribes of MAGA men: et al 2025. Water-hose tool use and showering behavior by Asian elephants. Current Biology 34(23): 5602 - 5606.e1: pronouns from a mental health advisor in Oregon: Welcome(00:04:03) Sponsors: CrowdHealth, Pique, and Sundays(00:14:23) The Great European Wheat Experiment(01:00:18) Setting up the Trump, Massie & Musk Discussion(01:07:09) Trump Attacks Rep. Thomas Massie(01:22:49) Trump & Elon Bromance(01:26:11) Failure to Understand the Unity Coalition(01:32:09) Will RFK Jr. Take th...

2025-03-12•2hr 14mins
#19

Pardoned for What? Robert George on DarkHorse

Bret Weinstein speaks with Professor Robert George on the subject of pardons, the shifting dynamics within the Democratic Party and the rise of Trump, AI, free speech, and reproductive rights.Find Robert P. George on X at and on his website at *****Sponsors:MUD\WTR is a great coffee alternative with mushrooms, herbs (and cacao!) with 1/7 the caffeine as coffee. Visit and use DARKHORSE at check out for $20 off, and a free frother!Dose: Save 30% on your first month of subscription by going to or entering DARKHORSE at checkout.*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.*****Mentioned on this episode:- James Madison Program - Embryo: A Defense of Human Life by Robert P. George (commission earned)*****Timestamps:(00:00:00) Welcome (00:00:41) Pardons: Anthony Fauci and Hunter Biden(00:01:16) Sponsor: MUD\WTR(00:03:11) Robert George Explains the Pardon Power(00:17:00) Sponsor: Dose(00:18:42) The Democratic Party Has Changed(00:35:54) AI & Consciousness (01:11:35) Free Speech in Science(01:29:37) Reproductive Rights(01:39:59) Closing*****Thumbnail images courtesy Getty Images:Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images News via Getty ImagesKent Nishimura / Getty Images News via Getty Images

2025-03-09•1hr 41mins
#20

Hamgate: The 266th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss travel, Spain, ham, and MAHA. How do we travel, how has it changed over time, and what is the point? From the Alhambra to street altercations, what can we learn from the places that we go, and how we interact with them? Then: one cannot bring iberico ham into the United States from Spain, the USDA says, “because there are special restrictions.” We suspect the ham lobby. Also: past interactions with border control, over vanilla, and dart-poison frogs. And: MAHA should rally around RFK Jr., rather than splintering over headlines and tweets. He needs our support now as much as ever.*****Our sponsors:ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order.Manukora: the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware. Save $150 on a cookware set over buying individual pieces, and get 10% off your order at us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Travel and its Discontents: Exploration in the Age of Self-Obsession: Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service: Jr on measles, on Fox: Jr tweet: Welcome(00:01:26) Sponsors: ARMRA, Manukora, Caraway(00:11:57) Travel has Changed(01:04:19) HamGate(01:24:39) Measles & RFK Jr.(01:35:11) Closing

2025-03-06•1hr 37mins
#21

If Only We’d Known: The 265th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss antibiotics, Kennedy, mirrors and education—all from Seville, Spain. First up: fluoroquinolones are a class of antibiotics that includes cipro, and are now understood to cause a whole host of serious health problems, from tendon rupture to heart damage to death. Over-reliance on pharmaceutical solutions to human problems is making us sicker. Then: scientists are worried about Kennedy, because he “rejects established science,” like how effective the mRNA shots are against Covid. Also: what is going on with mirrors, and why are people so quick to decide that it’s obvious? Finally: education should include mirrors and magnets and big messy physical games that require coordination of both individual bodies and people.*****Our sponsors:ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order.Timeline: Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to and use code darkhorse for 10% off your first order.Sundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to to receive 35% off your first order.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:The Achilles Heel of antibiotics: goes after Kennedy: tweet: Welcome(00:03:49) Sponsors: ARMRA, Timeline, Sundays(00:14:36) Antibiotic & Antihistamine Discussion Setup(00:23:36) “The Achilles Heel of Antibiotics”(00:34:08) Pharma Corruption Downstream in Our Lives(00:38:31) Is This What Aging Is?(00:43:38) Interventions Are Supposed to be Temporary(00:49:30) What We Actually Need(00...

2025-02-19•1hr 23mins
#22

Can Science Be Efficient? The 264th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss changes in global health from Barcelona, as indicated by how much public coughing is taking place now. This segues into a discussion of cancer, mRNA, trade-offs, and complex systems. Then: what DOGE needs to understand about science, which is not inherently efficient. What are indirect costs on federal grants, why are they necessary, and why do they vary? And: how does having indirect costs create perverse incentives by university administrators to privilege scientists over non-scientists, and Big Science over (regular) science. Specifically, science in the West is failing because fast, expensive empirical science is nearly always favored over slow, cheap, and/or theoretical science. Universities get richer, and Big Scientists get promoted, but grad students don’t learn how to be scientists, and we all lose out on having basic scientific questions answered, which will ultimately be our downfall. Also: the Ship of Theseus.***** Our sponsors:Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month.***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode:Evolutionary Lens , June 2021 (Hey YouTube: Divide by Zero): University Classifications for 20...

2025-02-15•1hr 33mins
#23

Trans Army Black Hawk Pilot, Jo Ellis on DarkHorse

Bret Weinstein speaks with Jo Ellis, the transgender pilot with the Virginia National Guard who was wrongfully targeted by social media users as the captain of the Black Hawk helicopter that tragically crashed.Find Jo Ellis on X at For your best skin & hair guaranteed head to to try it out for yourself with FREE shipping.MUD\WTR: Start your new morning ritual & get up to 43% off your @MUDWTR with DARKHORSE at : Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to for 27% Off Sitewide + 2 Free Dream Pillows with Mattress Purchase + Free Bedding Bundle (2 Dream Pillows, Sheet Set, and Mattress Protector) with any Luxe or Elite Mattress Order *This is their best offer- good through February 20th******Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.*****Timestamps:(00:00:00) Welcoming Jo Ellis to Dark Horse(00:04:37) Sponsors: Jolie, MUD\WTR, and Helix(00:10:43) Exploring Trans Military Service and Personal Experiences(00:15:29) Understanding Gender Dysphoria(00:32:32) Journey of Acceptance and Therapy(00:34:53) Complexities of Being Trans in the Military(00:41:58) Is Gender Dysphoria a Defect?(00:46:24) The Story that Brought Public Attention to Jo Ellis (00:58:50) Trump & Trans in the Military (01:11:37) Trans Activism(01:17:02) DEI in the Military(01:22:49) Bret’s Love of Helicopters(01:29:51) What Happened During the Black Hawk Crash in DC?(01:51:02) Jo Ellis on Diet, Fitness and Fast Cars(02:06:51) Closing

2025-02-15•2hr 10mins

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A Germ of Truth: The 263rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss the relationship between infectious and chronic disease, and between germ theory and terrain theory of disease. Pathogens are real, and exogenous treatments like antibiotics can kill them. The health of the body is affected by diet, exercise, stress, and the microbiome, all of which can affect how susceptible a person is to getting sick from pathogens. We discuss gastric ulcers, Covid-19, pneumococcal disease, and comorbidities. Also: how do traditional vs modern diets affect the health, dental and otherwise, of people? Why do pre-industrial people not get cavities, or need orthodontia? Why do squirrels fed by humans develop similarly malformed skulls as babies fed modern diets? Finally: do we have a responsibility to point out the carnage that will result as the Trump administration goes after decades of entrenched interests?*****Our sponsors:Caraway: Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware. Save $150 on a cookware set over buying individual pieces, and get 10% off your order at the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order.Mentioned in this episode:*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:RFK Jr on chronic and infectious disease: Jr on The Real Anthony Fauci: (commission earned)Marshall et al 1985. Attempt to fulfil Koch's postulates for pyloric Campylobacter. Med J Aust. 142:436–9: Lens Livestream – w discussion of Covid x...

2025-02-03•1hr 56mins
#25

Tragic Pharma Magic in the Confirmation of RFK Jr.

Walter Kirn shares his perspective after sitting front row in the confirmation hearing of RFK Jr. Find Walter on X: Find Walter at County Highway: ***** Sponsors: Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to brain.fm/DARKHORSE Dose: Orange shot for your Liver health. Save 30% on your first months subscription at dosedaily.co/darkhorse Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to www.GetFreshDarkHorse.com to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

2025-02-01•2hr 23mins
#26

Confirmation of Cool: The 262nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss the Senate Confirmation Hearings of Bobby Kennedy Jr., in which the Democrats reveal a preference for anecdote over science, and work hard to maintain the status quo. As RFK seeks to Make America Healthy Again, he answers questions about infectious and chronic disease, SSRIs, Covid, farmers, autism, conspiracy theories, Medicaid and Medicare, and says with no equivocation: “I am not afraid of vested interests.” Also: Trump signs an Executive Order that will prevent the chemical and surgical mutilation of children; the new Press Secretary seems positively human; and the CIA admits the likelihood of a laboratory origin of Covid. Finally: check out Mike Nayna’s newest film, about Unity and Rescue the Republic. ***** Our sponsors: Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Get 20% off plus free frother+beaker at Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: RFK Jr Senate Confirmation Hearing: Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation: CIA acknowledges likelihood of lab leak: A coalition of the Wyrd: ***** Timestamps: (00:00:00) Welcome (00:06:35) Sponsors: Brain.fm, Pique’s Nandaka, and Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club (00:17:23) RFK Jr. Confirmation Hearing (01:25:05) NEW ...

2025-01-29•1hr 59mins
#27

Exposing Financial Fraud: Forensic Accountant & Whistleblower John McPherson on DarkHorse

Bret Weinstein speaks with John McPherson on the subject of forensic accounting and whistleblowing. McPherson highlighting his concerns about the current financial landscape and the potential for another financial crisis. ***** Sponsors: MUD\WTR: Start your new morning ritual & get up to 43% off your @MUDWTR with DARKHORSE at Dose: Save 30% on your first month of subscription by going to or entering DARKHORSE at checkout. ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Mentioned in this episode: Monthly Patreon Discussion: The Big Short: (commission earned) The Life Partners Case: Whistle Blower Award Process: Borrower Defense: Enron fake trading floor: Fair Rate Act: ***** Timestamps: (00:00:00) What is a Forensic Accountant and Whistleblower? (00:03:41) Understanding Ponzi Schemes and Their Mechanisms (00:06:30) Concerns About the Current Financial Landscape (00:13:19) A Deep Dive into Fraud: The Life Partners Case (00:16:41) Sponsors: Dose and MUD\WTR (00:20:19) A Deep Dive into Fraud: The Life Partners Case (Cont.) (00:27:07) The Role of the SEC and Recovery Efforts (00:31:14) Uncovering Fraud in Plain Sight (00:32:45) The Whistleblower Award Process (00:42:21) Fraud in For-Profit Education (00:49:22) The Bubble Game and Market Manipulation (01:00:01) Media's Role in Exposing Injustice (01:08:12) The Financial Crisis and Too Big to Fail (01:20:26) Whistleblowers and the Need for Accountability

2025-01-26•1hr 27mins
#28

The GOAT? The 261st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss how it was to be in DC during Trump’s second Inauguration, and the MAHA ball. Then: a summary of Executive Orders: positive (e.g. freedom of speech, reality of biological sex, affirmative action, putting America first, securing our borders, establishing DOGE, J6 pardons, promoting beautiful architecture, and withdrawing from the WHO), negative (Gulf of America, the death penalty), and environmental (off-shore wind and natural gas, ANWR, fish and fires). Then: three reasons that Trump could become the best president we have had. ***** Our sponsors: CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to to get 15% off your first order. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: Executive Orders by Trump: Seed oil lobbyist becomes chief of staff at the USDA: ***** Timestamps: (00:00:00) Welcome (00:01:15) Sponsors: CrowdHealth, Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club, ARMRA (00:12:53) Bret & Heather’s Inauguration & MAHA Ball Experience (00:33:45) Executive Orders: The Positive (01:23:12) Executive Orders: The Negative (01:37:00) Executive Orders: The Environmental (01:54:45) Executive Orders: MAHA? (01:57:10) Bret’s Argument for Why Trump COULD Be The GOAT (02:10:01)...

2025-01-23•2hr 11mins
#29

Unsafe at Any Speed: Dr. Toby Rogers on DarkHorse

Bret Weinstein speaks with Dr. Toby Rogers on the subject of the economics of autism. Find Toby Rogers on X at and on Substack at ***** This episode is sponsored by: Jolie: For your best skin & hair guaranteed head to to try it out for yourself with FREE shipping. ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Mentioned in this episode: - Please see Toby Roger’s doctoral thesis, The Political Economy of Autism for links to studies mentioned - For example, the first autism prevalence study is linked in his References - Hunter Gatherer's Guide (commission earned) - The Moth in the Iron Lung (commission earned) - Bandom Health Project - Christine Stable Ben's Ted Talk ***** Timestamps: (00:00:00) Introducing Dr. Toby Rogers (00:02:20) Autism is an Epidemic (00:08:07) Is Autism Genetic? (00:17:55) Sponsor: Jolie (00:19:48) Following the Money (00:29:12) This is a “Radioactive” Topic (00:31:11) Environmental Causes in Autism (00:42:43) Heavy Metals in Vaccines (00:52:10) Profiting from the Vaccine Schedule (00:56:01) A Red Flag (00:58:45) The Key Point to this Discussion (01:14:21) The Culpability of Those Involved (01:24:25) Liberals & Libertarians (01:36:01) The Economic Costs of Autism (01:47:40) Closing

2025-01-19•1hr 48mins
#30

Fire and a Broken Heart: The 260th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we continue our discussion of the Los Angeles Fires, sharing stories, analysis, and an apology from the owner of the LA Times, a publication which endorsed Karen Bass, LA’s current mayor. Even if diversity and inclusion have value, we need skill and experience more. Then: a new molecular technique reveals the extent to which mRNA shots move around the body and trigger the immune system to destroy transfected cells; this provides strong support for Bret’s years-old hypothesis that myocarditis and pericarditis are the result of T cell mediated destruction of cardiomyocytes. Finally: dung beetles, in life and in art. Who makes dung balls, who rolls dung balls, and why is it such a popular activity?*****Our sponsors:Timeline: Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to and use code darkhorse for 10% off your first order.Caraway: Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware. Save $150 on a cookware set over buying individual pieces, and get 10% off your order at .Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Cal Fire: the Palisades: Morning Meeting w Patrick Soon-Shiong: et al 2025. Nanocarrier imaging at single-cell resolution across entire mouse bodies with deep learning. Nat Biotechnol. Goddard Insects: & Byrne 2013. Alternate reproductive tactics in an African dung beetle, Circellium bacchus(Scarabeidae). Journal of Insect Behavior 26: 440-45...

2025-01-15•1hr 58mins
#31

Fires, Facebook & Free Speech: The 259th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss the Palisades Fire in Los Angeles, which has destroyed the neighborhood where Heather grew up. Why does California burn, how are fires different now than they used to be, what happens now? We discuss the Getty Villa and Palisades Village, and why we should care what happens to a wealthy neighborhood in West LA. Also: did the LA Fire Chief drinking the DEI Kool-Aid contribute to the devastation? And when are natural disasters not entirely natural? Then: Zuckerberg announces changes to fact-checking, filters, and trust and safety teams at Meta. It’s not an apology. Are the changes politically motivated, or market-driven, or philosophical, and will they stick? At the same time, Musk announces plans for algorithmic deboosting on X. Zero is a special number. ***** Our sponsors: CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. Sundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to to receive 35% off your first order. Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Up to 20% off + free frother+beaker at ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: Scope of the LA fires from The Lookout: Heather’s childhood LA fire experience: Jacob Soboroff on the Palisades Fire: Fox News in Palisades Village: Getty History: DEI LA Fire Chief: Zuckerberg announces changes: Musk does too: Fact checkers aren’t scientists: ***** Timestamps: (00:00:...

2025-01-08•1hr 53mins
#32

Looking Back and Looking Forward: The 258th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we review the past year on DarkHorse, recalling stories about Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (the former president of Harvard, Boeing, Kamala Harris, Secret Service, tortillas); food (seed oils, tallow, and types of fat; the food compass; microbeef sushi; the perfect potato); pharma (vaccines and the CDC, Ozempic, Bovear, sunscreen); the Earth’s magnetic field and pole shifts; the WHO; the need for natural history museums; gender ideology (WPATH, pup handlers, the Olympics, Imane Khelif); immigration and the southern border; Julian Assange’s release; the First Amendment and the Supreme Court; the election, Rescue the Republic, and Unity; and some cool biology (octopi have old sex chromosomes; fish with “legs” that can taste; an orangutan who heals wounds with leaves; and frogs in saunas). Then: predictable fissures are arising in the MAGA – MAHA – Unity coalition. How should we think about them, and how can we protect MAHA from a battle between food and pharma? Proposal: Informed Consent and Liability. ***** Our sponsors: ARMRA: Colostrum is our first food, and can help restore your health and resilience as an adult. Go to to get 15% off your first order. Manukora: the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at Helix: Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to for 25% Off Sitewide + 2 Free Dream Pillows with Mattress Purchase AND a free bedding bundle (2 Dream Pillows, Sheet Set, and Mattress Protector) with any Luxe or Elite Mattress Order. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, s...

2025-01-01•2hr 20mins
#33

Senator Ron Johnson on the DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein speaks with Senator Ron Johnson on the subject of corruption present in COVID policies and American politics in general. They question who the “puppet masters” are and review what RFK Jr.’s stance on vaccines could bring to the upcoming administration. Finally, Bret and Senator Johnson, notorious COVID dissidents, end their discussion by considering the possibility of Fauci receiving a pardon. Find Senator Ron Johnson on X: ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Mentioned in this Episode: - Oxford study claiming COVID to be a bad flu season - May 2020 Senator held a hearing - “The Real Anthony Fauci” by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (commission earned) - “The Wuhan Cover-Up” by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (commission earned) - “What the Nurses Saw” by Ken McCarthy (commission earned) Timestamps: (00:00:00) Senator Rom Johnson’s Pursuit of the COVID Truth (00:04:40) Aligned in Fighting Corruption (00:10:53) Three - Maybe Four - Groups of People in Government | Who are the puppet masters? (00:14:52) Bret is Embarrassed by This (00:19:17) Somebody Decided to Let Americans Die (00:23:33) Doctors are Getting Crushed (00:26:35) The Code that Must Not to be Named (00:31:08) How did We Get Here? (00:36:25) Decentralizing the Process of “Sense Making” (00:40:50) Bring Integrity Back to Scientific Research (00:44:39) This is Non-Partisan (00:47:34) The Key Failure (00:51:44) Can Trump & RFK Jr. Solve the Puzzle? (01:00:43) The Hinge Point in History (01:02:56) Pardoning Fauci

2024-12-29•1hr 10mins
#34

Why Trump Wants Greenland: The 257th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss the World Health Organization, Greenland, Panama, and how Trump plans to interact with all of the above. Is it moral to ask for, buy, or take, other people’s land? We need to remember the Monroe Doctrine. Also: the Southern Poverty Law Center puts out an annual hate map, in which they showcase hate groups like “anti-government groups” that promote “conspiratorial and dubious views of government…as evidenced by the movement’s popular rhetoric on such issues as COVID-19 regulation.” Also on the SPLC’s hate list: people who don’t think that drag queen story hours promote literacy. While claiming to challenge “binary gender roles,” trans ideology actually does the opposite. Finally: eight insights for Hannukah. ***** Our sponsors: Policygenius: Save time and money providing a financial safety net for your family. Go to policygenius.com to get your free life insurance quotes and see how much you could save. ARMRA: Colostrum is our first food, and can help restore your health and resilience as an adult. Go to www.tryarmra.com/DARKHORSE to get 15% off your first order. CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at JoinCrowdHealth.com to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: Reuters on the WHO: New York Times on Greenland and Panama: SPLC hate map: Fighting illiteracy with the SPLC:

2024-12-24•1hr 57mins
#35

Follow the White Rabbit(s): The 256th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss resistance to Make America Healthy Again, and how beliefs that were once unspeakable become speakable. It used to be impossible to speak about the risks of fluoride in the water; now it’s not. It used to be impossible to question the safety of Mercury in vaccines; now it’s not. How safe is Aluminum as an adjuvant in vaccines? Goliath assures us it’s safe; we look at the research that has been done, and find otherwise. We are betting our lives, and our children’s lives, on four rabbits and a dude. We also discuss the polio vaccine, and GLP-1 RAs, more familiarly known as Ozempic and its chemical kin. Similar to the mRNA shots for Covid (wherein Uracil was replaced with Pseudouridine), GLP-1RAs are similar but not identical to a naturally occurring human hormone, but have been altered to be more “stable” and last longer in the body. ***** Our sponsors: Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Up to 20% off + free frother+beaker at CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: Secret campaign to disrupt MAHA: Karstens 2024. History of Salk Inactivated Polio vaccine: Why we should welcome the lab leak theory: Rogers 2019. The Political Economy of Autism: Pharma darlings: Giant ...

2024-12-18•2hr 1mins
#36

Fear the Reaper: The 255th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss how to avoid confusion between moral and analytical differences, especially when it comes to politics and the state of America. Probably you have people in your life whom you love, with whom you disagree adamantly about politics. If you believe those people to share your values, then you probably just disagree about what you have seen, and what it means—rather than believing that they are fundamentally bad people. Also: is it unethical to spend time and resources investigating scientific questions that have already been answered? And: excess deaths in the time of Covid, the pull-forward effect, and an analogy with treefalls during early Winter storms: strong winds cull the weak, such that in subsequent storms, there should be fewer trees that fall. Also: check out Obvious State—they make amazing art prints.*****Our sponsors:Caraway: Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware—makes a great gift! Get 20% off your order at the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to and use code darkhorse for 10% off your order.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned)Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Is it unethical to replicate research? Dowd: Deaths: excess death analysis: Disability Data: State: Welcome(00:02:46) Sponsors: Caraway, Manukora, Timeline(00:13:59) Story of Mitochondrial Senescence(00:15:30) Tandem Bikes & Kayaks(00:25:26) Addressing the Murder of Unitedhealthcare CEO (00:33:57) Are you Confusing ...

2024-12-10•1hr 36mins
#37

The Fight Over Fat: The 254th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss science, scientists, and the mainstream media. How can the New York Times and The Atlantic simultaneously be so opposed to Kennedy, and so in favor of the industrial sludge being promoted by Big Pharma and Big Food? A new research result finds that women who move for a few seconds every day are less likely to have heart attacks than women who move for no seconds at all. Our standards have sunk very, very low. Science Magazine tells us that American science needs a new vision, but doesn’t tell us what that vision should be. And we discuss why not knowing an answer, and using observation and inference to try to deduce it, is a better route to knowledge and autonomy than is looking up the answer right away. ***** Our sponsors: Sundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to to receive 35% off your first order. ARMRA: Colostrum is our first food and can help restore your health and resilience as an adult. Go to to get 15% off your first order. Helix: Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to to get up to 25% of all mattress orders AND 2 free pillows. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: America Stopped Cooking With Tallow for a Reason: Advisory, AHA Presidential 2017. "Dietary Fats and Cardiovascular Disease." Circulation 135. Ozempic Could Crush the Junk Food Industry. But It Is Fighting Back: Stamatakis et al 2024. Device-measured vigorous intermittent lifestyle physical activity (VILPA) and major adverse cardiovascular events: e...

2024-12-04•1hr 40mins
#38

Mr. Jones and Me: Nathan Jones on DarkHorse

Bret Speaks with Nathan Jones, founder of the leading manufacturer of xylitol-based products in North America, XLEAR on the subject of hidden side of human health, the nasal microbiome and other related issues. Find Nathan Jones at *****Sponsors:Sundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to to receive 35% off your first order.Caraway: Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware. Go to for 10% off your order.*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music*****Timestamps: (00:00:00) Welcome(00:02:19) The Story of Xilytol(00:06:42) Xylitol in Toothpaste and the Diet(00:10:11) Mainstream View of Health vs. Unregulated View(00:13:00) Sponsors: Sundays for Dogs and Caraway(00:16:37) Xylitol Impacts the Modern Microbiome(00:17:23) Xylitol and Dogs(00:19:16) Osteopathy (00:22:39) Standard of Care(00:24:08) Seeing a Difference with Xylitol(00:28:38) Protecting Yourself from Respiratory Pathogens with Xylitol(00:36:58) Allopathic is Obsessed with Metrics (00:40:53) Absurdity of Fluoride (00:48:24) Mike Mew and the Evolutionary Status of Orthodontia (00:56:05) Harms vs. Benefit of Modern Medicine(00:57:37) Detecting Mineral Deficiency (01:00:48) Shifting Fast Food, Olive Oil, and Honey(01:03:11) Artificial Gum(01:05:37) System Diseases with Roots in the Mouth(01:08:25) Public Health Response to COVID(01:11:53) The Lawsuit (01:28:04) Minimal Intervention: Nasal & Oral Hygiene (01:32:55) Closing

2024-11-30•1hr 33mins
#39

Taste the Science: The 253rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this 253rd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this week’s episode, we follow the science to fewer cow farts. Bovear, an FDA approved product that is fed to cattle to reduce their production of methane, is the result of yet more reductionist, metric-heavy research that conflates complex systems with complicated ones. Bill Gates approves, though, so what could go wrong? We discuss ruminant biology, the actual Carbon impact of grazing cattle, and some other great new products from the makers of Bovear, including “the world’s first-ever flavor created by artificial intelligence.” Then: why is the BBC’s disinformation wing concerned about what Bret said on Diary of a CEO? What happened to journalism? Finally: it’s Thanksgiving tomorrow. Liberals are supposed to be high in openness—consider being open to the differing views of your friends and family, and have a wonderful time together. ***** Our sponsors: American Hartford Gold: Get up to $5,000 of free silver on your first qualifying order. Call 866-828-1117 or text “DARKHORSE” to 998899. ARMRA: Colostrum is our first food, and can help restore your health and resilience as an adult. Go to to get 15% off your first order. Pique’s Nandaka: delicious mushroom, tea, and chocolate drink that provides all day energy. Up to 20% off + free frother+beaker at ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: Arla Foods introduces Bovear: Bovear product info: Mississippi State on Ruminant ...

2024-11-27•1hr 48mins
#40

Think Fast: The 252nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this 252nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this week’s episode, we start with corrections from last livestream, and a bit more about seed oils. Then: dry fasting. What are the cultural and biological precedents for abstaining from all food and drink for hours or days at a time? What religious traditions include dry fasting? Are their health benefits? What are autophagy, and metabolic water, and what do kangaroo rats and camels have to teach us? We tell our personal story of just having done a seven day dry fast, and remind Americans that, as a country, we just voted to Make America Healthy Again. Your health is in your hands, not those of the “experts.” ***** Our sponsors: CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to Timeline: Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to and use code darkhorse for 10% off your order. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: What’s wrong with seed oils: The Phoenix Protocol: Dry Fasting for Rapid Healing and Radical Life Extension, by August Dunning: (commission earned) Dry Fasting Club: ***** Timestamps: (00:00:00) Welcome (00:01:48) Sponsors: Crowdhealth, Brain.fm, and Timeline (00:11:5...

2024-11-20•1hr 59mins
#41

What Jessica Rose Knows: Dr. Jessica Rose on DarkHorse

Bret Speaks with Dr. Jessica Rose on the subject of the rift within the COVID dissident community regarding the existence of a novel pathogen. Find Dr. Jessica Rose on X at and on her Substacks at and ***** Sponsors: Fresh Pressed Olive Oil: Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. ARMRA: Colostrum is our first food, and can help restore your health and resilience as an adult. Go to to get 15% off your first order. Helix: Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to to get up to 25% of all mattress orders AND 2 free pillows. ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Mentioned in this Episode: - Denis Rancourt believes there was no novel pathogen and - Dr. Pierre Cory’s certification revoked in August 2024 - The diffuse proposal - MSH3 Homology and Potential Recombination Link to SARS-CoV-2 Furin Cleavage Site

2024-11-17•2hr 8mins
#42

It Takes a Potemkin Village: The 251st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this 251st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this week’s episode, we discuss how the Harris campaign spent their billion dollar war chest—including on celebrities who appeared to be endorsing her because they believed in her, but were actually getting paid. Also: $26 million was spent for “text message outreach,” any many people donated $10 or $20. It’s reverse Robin Hood: stealing from the poor, to give to the rich. Related: how can we stay optimistic about unity, when we are seeing such different things? Finally: the New York Times finds a whole bunch of well-credential “experts” in nutrition to assure us that seed oils are excellent for your health. (They’re not.) You have a choice: follow the science, or think scientifically for yourself, and actually be healthy. ***** Our sponsors: Policygenius: Save time and money providing a financial safety net for your family. Go to to get your free life insurance quotes and see how much you could save. CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. Ralston College is reinventing and reviving higher ed. Join their MA in Humanities program and spend the first term in Greece before joining your peers on campus in Savannah, Georgia. Apply here: ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: Harris campaign disbursements from the FEC: News Nation with Lindy Li: Rescu...

2024-11-13•1hr 37mins
#43

Election 2024: Rescued Republic? The 250th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this 250th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.In this week’s episode, we discuss the election results. The outcome—Trump in office, and both legislative bodies having a Republican majority—has the strong potential to be positive for everyone, and yet so many people are scared or angry. We discuss why, and provide some reasons that letting go of your fear and anger is the right thing to do. Also: what do exit polls reveal about who voted blue vs red? Who are the women who voted for Trump? How can you level up yourself and your understanding of the world? Then: why is the New York Times producing graphics that omit some of its own data, making it appear that the West coast had no shift in voting between 2020 and 2024 (spoiler: a significant majority of counties across the countries moved red this election). Finally: which party had more people who hoped for authoritarian crackdowns just two years ago? And what did the CDC have planned for the dirty and unvaccinated?*****Our sponsors:Caraway: Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware—makes a great gift! Get 20% off your order at the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping.*****Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: in this episode:Election results: I Am Voting for Trump: polls: Marinos, self-help guru: election map: by ...

2024-11-07•1hr 40mins
#44

Vote No on New York's Prop. 1 | Bret Weinstein and Attorney Bobbie Anne Cox

New York's Prop. 1 pretends to protect against discrimination while, in a paragraph not visible to voters, it sets the stage for a massive new wave of discrimination! Equal protection under the law is in jeopardy. If this Trojan Horse works, it will soon spread to other states. Please listen to Attorney Bobbie Anne Cox and vote down Prop. 1! Find Bobbie Anne Cox on X at and more on Prop. 1 at

2024-11-04•10mins
#45

Shots in the Dark: Kevin McKernan on DarkHorse

Bret Speaks with Kevin McKernan on the subject of accountability and the dangers of centralized control in public and science. They discuss the complexities surrounding COVID vaccines, molecular biology, and the implications of PCR testing. The conversation touches on regulatory oversight, potential fraud in vaccine production, and the controversial presence of SV40 in vaccines, raising critical questions about public health and safety. Find Kevin McKernan at: and episode is sponsored by Caraway: Non-toxic, beautiful, light ceramic cookware. Go to for 10% off your order.*****Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.Thumbnail: NIAID (2020 December 22). HHS/NIH COVID-19 Vaccine Kick-Off event [Photograph]. Retrieved from *****Mentioned in this Episode:- Kary Mullis cautioned PCR is an inappropriate test for infectiousness and - Luc Montagnier - Phil Buckhaults Found DNA in COVID-19 Vaccine Residuals - Dr. Harvey Risch's presentation - Ron Johnson presentation - The Brook Jackson Case with Warner Mendenhall *****Timestamps:00:00:00 Introducing Kevin McKernan00:04:25 Issues with PCR Testing and Determining Infectiousness 00:13:15 Sponsor: CarawayHome.com/DarkHorse00:14:42 Issues with PCR Testing and Determining Infectiousness Cont.00:16:19 Novel Virus and Fear Tactics00:18:31 COVID-19 Did Not Alter Longevity00:19:54 What if we did nothing? 00:23:58 Questioning the Motives Behind the Vaccine Rollout00:25:13 Continuing the Vaccine Conveyor Belt 00:27:25 One Lesson of COVID: Big Pharma, Death and Liability00:28:17 Children Being Vaccinated for COVID-1900:31:00 Politically Organized Land Grab00:31:46 Anthony Fauci was Paid for His Role in a Weapons Program00:35:50 Curiosity i...

2024-10-30•1hr 54mins
#46

Leave No American Behind: Brandon Straka on DarkHorse

Bret Speaks with Brandon Straka, founder of The Walkaway Campaign on the need for open dialogue and the pursuit of truth in political discourse. Straka shares his journey from being a lifelong Democrat to becoming a vocal supporter of independent thought. The discussion also delves into the Second Amendment, government power, and the extremism within the Democratic Party, highlighting the complexities of political identity and the motivations behind political actions. Find Brandon on X at and Visit The Campaign at ***** For the full, unedited conversation between Bret and Brandon, join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Please consider giving to the Rescue the Republic Give Send Go at ***** Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us with the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Timestamps: 00:00:00 Welcome 00:00:39 Understanding the Walk Away Movement 00:04:41 Shifts in Values and Political Identity 00:10:12 Rational Gun Control Advocate to 00:10:54 Givesendgo.com/Rescuethewest 00:11:36 Second Amendment: a hedge against tyranny 00:13:25 Mass Shootings Used by Blue Team for Argument Against Guns 00:18:05 Ominous Sign that the Day the Government Turns on Us is Close-at-Hand 00:19:33 Bret Suggests to Stop Referring to the Democrats as “the Left” 00:23:26 Has the Democratic Party Become More Extreme? 00:31:47 AOC is Not a Dummy 00:39:14 Who Flees and into What Lifeboats? 00:42:57 What Bothers Bret About MAGA 00:48:15 How Brandon Views MAGA 00:49:22 Republicans are Not Fighters 00:51:38 Bret’s Leave No Americans Behind Movement 00:55:20 Betrayed by the Democratic Party? Join the Unity Movement. 01:03:35 The Republican Party is Not MAGA 01:05:43 The Role of Local Government in Change 01:09:00 The International Level of Government 01:11:...

2024-10-27•1hr 20mins
#47

The Case for Trump: The 249th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this 249th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this week’s episode, we discuss the upcoming election, and how important it is to vote. The Democratic Party has created a two-tiered system in the Courts and in federal agencies; they have inverted basic values, including equal protection under the law, the role of families, informed consent, individual sovereignty, and our Constitution; and they have replaced truth-seeking with activism. From wars to the economy to the southern border, there is ample evidence of what the two teams actually stand for. Also: the first case report of trans-myocarditis. Then: “The Science” is still not science: federally funded research on the effects of puberty blockers on children isn’t published, because the researchers don’t like the results they got. ***** Our sponsors: VanMan: Tallow and honey balm, deodorant, and many other amazing animal based personal care products.Go to and use code darkhorse10 for 10% off your first order. ARMRA: Colostrum is our first food, and can help restore your health and resilience as an adult. Go to to get 15% off your first order. Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: Seymour Hersh on Biden, Harris, and the 25th Amendment: Bad Storms, Bad Science: New York Times on unpublished research on puber...

2024-10-23•2hr 8mins
#48

Reasonable Dowd: Ed Dowd on DarkHorse

Bret Speaks with Ed Dowd on the subject of COVID-19 vaccines, focusing on the quantification of excess deaths, disabilities, and injuries. Find Ed Dowd on X at references to his research projects at and his book "Cause Unknown": The Epidemic of Sudden Deaths in 2021 & 2022 (Children’s Health Defense) ***** This episode is sponsored by American Hartford Gold. Get up to $5,000 of free silver on your first qualifying order. Call 866-828-1117 or text “DARKHORSE” to 998899. ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Timestamps: (00:00:00) Welcome (00:01:40) Former Blackrock Portfolio Manager Spots Trend of “Sudden Death” with COVID-19 Vaccines (00:06:06) Correcting “Correlation Does Not Equal Causation” (00:12:29) Quantifying COVID-19 Vaccine Harms: Excess Deaths, Disabilities, and Injuries (00:15:16) Sponsor: American Hartford Gold (00:17:00) Quantifying COVID-19 Vaccine Harms: Excess Deaths, Disabilities, and Injuries Continued (00:27:47) Excess Deaths from COVID-19 Vaccines are Still Elevated (00:42:28) COVID-19 Vaccine Disabilities Plateau (00:50:14) COVID-19 Vaccine Injuries and Issues with the Placebo Group (00:52:35) COVID-19 Vaccine Injuries: Powerful Evidence (00:55:13) COVID Dissidents & Destroying a Control Group (01:02:00) COVID-19 Vaccine Global Numbers (01:04:00) COVID-19 Vaccine, IGG4 , and Immunity to Pathogenic Illness (01:09:04) This is a National Security Concern (01:11:00) The Good News with Boosters (01:13:42) Long-term Economic Costs (01:15:37) Insurance Executives are Waking Up (01:19:00) Ed’s Story of Waking Up (01:24:40) COVID-19 is Shattering World Views (01:28:23) Closing

2024-10-22•1hr 29mins
#49

Have the parties flipped? The 248th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this 248th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this week’s episode, we begin and end by geeking out on biology: why there tend to be so many molecules in organisms that humans find useful (see: turmeric and ginger), why you can’t be both the fastest and the most agile anything, and new research that finds that some Atlantic fish with leg-like appendages can taste the ground with those “legs.” In between all that: an analysis of American political parties—where they’ve been, where they are now, and what might happen next. Also: self-indulgent whining from the Southern hemisphere. ***** Our sponsors: CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. PaleoValley: Wide array of amazing products, including SuperFood Golden Milk and beef sticks. Go to for 15% off your first order. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: The Atlantic on Trump: Season’s mis-greetings: Fish “legs” that taste the ground: Original research (Allard et al 2024): ***** Timestamps: (00:00:00) Welcome (00:01:42) Sponsors: CrowdHealth, Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club, and PaleoValley (00:11:01) Turmeric and How Humans Began Cultivating Plants and Animals (00:23:09) The Organiism that Produces Ivermecti...

2024-10-19•1hr 32mins
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Black and Blue: The 247th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this 247th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this week’s episode, we discuss the “Opportunity Agenda for Black Men” being proposed by Kamala Harris—from legalizing marijuana to enacting price controls on food and rent to regulating crypto. Then: why the ascendant Right needs the traditional liberal left, and a discussion of positive feedback, and why it has become easier to say that you support Trump than it used to be. Finally: azo food dye turns mice transparent, in the name of science. Food dyes and other additives are in more things than we know; how can we keep ourselves healthy in this environment? ***** Our sponsors: Brain.fm: intense music that boosts productivity. Unlock your brain’s full potential free for 30 days by going to Manukora: the most flavorful, delicious, and nutritious honey you’ll ever have. Get $25 off your starter kit at Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: ***** Mentioned in this episode: Barack Obama says that Harris will lift up black men: Kamala’s Plan: Polling data: Yellow and transparent mice: USDA on color additives: Slowdown Farmstead: ***** Timestamps: (00:00:00) Welcome (00:06:19) Sponsors: Brain.fm, Manukora, Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club (00:18:39) Voting Red is Voting Unity (00:24:29) Black Men and the Harris Campaign (00:27:58) Point 1 (00:32:16) Poi...

2024-10-16•2hr 14mins

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